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Re: [PATCH 00/13] Update versions of libcurl and Perl

From
Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>
Date
Oct 11, 2024, 19:22 UTC
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On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 2:35 PM Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
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> Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com> writes:
> > I may be in the minority here, but I'm fairly negative on this entire
> > patch series. As you say, supporting these old versions is effectively
> > zero-cost, so how does this project benefit from these changes which
> > potentially "break" Git for users on older platforms? I see no upside
> > here. The cover letter provides no strong justification for
> > (potentially) inconveniencing people; the argument about being able to
> > utilize more modern Perl features is weak[1] at best and is not
> > convincing.
>
> Having said all that, I did find it was surprising that we raised to
> a merely 6-year old cutoff point.  If it were discarding versions of
> libraries that are older than 12 years (instead of 6 years), would
> you be having the same reaction?

I almost certainly would have had the same reaction had it been 12 years instead of 6. As one who "lives" with these old platforms both professionally and personally, I'm sensitive to the issue because I have been burned too many times by projects arbitrarily dropping support for older platforms (or, more generally, not taking their user population into consideration when making arbitrary changes).

I would be much more tolerant and understanding of changes with substantial and provable value, such as ridding the project of a high-cost maintenance burden, or eliminating some maldesign which impedes implementation of some new important feature (or even which impedes fixing some serious flaw). But the patch series under discussion does not fall into those categories; it (potentially) penalizes an arbitrary chunk of the Git user base without any obvious benefit to the project itself.

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Message 26 of 56 in “Update versions of libcurl and Perl”
  1. 00/13 Update versions of libcurl and Perlbrian m. carlson, Oct 10, 2024
  2. 01/13 git-curl-compat: remove check for curl 7.21.5brian m. carlson, Oct 10, 2024
  3. 02/13 git-curl-compat: remove check for curl 7.25.0brian m. carlson, Oct 10, 2024
  4. 03/13 git-curl-compat: remove check for curl 7.34.0brian m. carlson, Oct 10, 2024
  5. 04/13 git-curl-compat: remove check for curl 7.39.0brian m. carlson, Oct 10, 2024
  6. 05/13 git-curl-compat: remove check for curl 7.43.0brian m. carlson, Oct 10, 2024
  7. 06/13 git-curl-compat: remove check for curl 7.44.0brian m. carlson, Oct 10, 2024
  8. 07/13 git-curl-compat: remove check for curl 7.52.0brian m. carlson, Oct 10, 2024
  9. 09/13 git-curl-compat: remove check for curl 7.56.0brian m. carlson, Oct 10, 2024
  10. Patrick SteinhardtOct 11, 2024
  11. Jeff KingOct 11, 2024
  12. Patrick SteinhardtOct 11, 2024
  13. Junio C HamanoOct 11, 2024
  14. 10/13 INSTALL: document requirement for libcurl 7.61.0brian m. carlson, Oct 10, 2024
  15. 12/13 INSTALL: require Perl 5.26.0brian m. carlson, Oct 10, 2024
  16. Oswald BuddenhagenOct 11, 2024
  17. brian m. carlsonOct 15, 2024
  18. 11/13 Require Perl 5.26.0brian m. carlson, Oct 10, 2024
  19. 08/13 git-curl-compat: remove check for curl 7.53.0brian m. carlson, Oct 10, 2024
  20. 13/13 gitweb: make use of s///rbrian m. carlson, Oct 10, 2024
  21. Jeff KingOct 11, 2024
  22. Junio C HamanoOct 11, 2024
  23. Eric SunshineOct 11, 2024
  24. Junio C HamanoOct 11, 2024
  25. Alejandro R. SedeñoOct 11, 2024
  26. Eric SunshineOct 11, 2024
  27. brian m. carlsonOct 11, 2024
  28. Eric SunshineOct 15, 2024
  29. Taylor BlauOct 15, 2024
  30. brian m. carlsonOct 15, 2024
  31. Alejandro R. SedeñoOct 16, 2024
  32. Eli SchwartzOct 22, 2024
  33. brian m. carlsonOct 22, 2024
  34. Alejandro R. SedeñoOct 11, 2024
  35. Junio C HamanoOct 11, 2024
  36. Alejandro R. SedeñoOct 14, 2024
  37. Patrick SteinhardtOct 17, 2024
  38. 00/12 Update versions of libcurl and Perlbrian m. carlson, Oct 23, 2024
  39. 04/12 git-curl-compat: remove check for curl 7.39.0brian m. carlson, Oct 23, 2024
  40. 03/12 git-curl-compat: remove check for curl 7.34.0brian m. carlson, Oct 23, 2024
  41. 01/12 git-curl-compat: remove check for curl 7.21.5brian m. carlson, Oct 23, 2024
  42. 02/12 git-curl-compat: remove check for curl 7.25.0brian m. carlson, Oct 23, 2024
  43. 05/12 git-curl-compat: remove check for curl 7.43.0brian m. carlson, Oct 23, 2024
  44. 06/12 git-curl-compat: remove check for curl 7.44.0brian m. carlson, Oct 23, 2024
  45. 08/12 git-curl-compat: remove check for curl 7.53.0brian m. carlson, Oct 23, 2024
  46. 09/12 git-curl-compat: remove check for curl 7.56.0brian m. carlson, Oct 23, 2024
  47. 12/12 gitweb: make use of s///rbrian m. carlson, Oct 23, 2024
  48. Oswald BuddenhagenOct 23, 2024
  49. brian m. carlsonOct 24, 2024
  50. 10/12 INSTALL: document requirement for libcurl 7.61.0brian m. carlson, Oct 23, 2024
  51. 11/12 Require Perl 5.26.0brian m. carlson, Oct 23, 2024
  52. rsbecker@nexbridge.comOct 23, 2024
  53. 07/12 git-curl-compat: remove check for curl 7.52.0brian m. carlson, Oct 23, 2024
  54. Taylor BlauOct 23, 2024
  55. Patrick SteinhardtOct 24, 2024
  56. brian m. carlsonOct 24, 2024

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