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Re: [PATCH 12/13] odb/source-files: move alternates into the backend

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Karthik Nayak <karthik.188@gmail.com>
Date
Oct 6, 2026, 20:51 UTC
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Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> writes:
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> Originally, when designing pluggable object databases the goal was that
> the object database can have multiple sources, and every source attached
> to it could use a different backend. This would have allowed for quite a
> lot of flexibility, as you could trivially mix and match different kinds
> of object storages in whatever way you like.
>
> But while well-intentioned, this design led to a bunch of conceptual
> problems:
>
>   - We're now trying to read objects in source order, whereas we
>     previously tried to read objects via packfiles before trying to read
>     them via loose objects. This led to a performance regression when
>     using alternates or when using a quarantine directory.
>

Could the design be instead to use a mapping function which allows us to map objects to sources, based on some characteristics of the object?

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>   - Some data structures are supposed to only ever exist once, like for
>     example bitmaps and commit graphs. At the same time, those data
>     structures also span across the union of all objects, so they may
>     cross sources.
>
This is not really a problem for having multiple sources though.
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>   - It is unclear how we can extend GIT_OBJECT_DIRECTORY or
>     GIT_ALTERNATE_OBJECT_DIRECTORIES to become backend-agnostic in a
>     backwards-compatible way. In general, introducing an object storage
>     extension into the current status quo where alternates may have to
>     be extended to become generic was proving to be painful.
>
>   - Some mechanisms of alternates assume way too much about how exactly
>     their backends work. Alternate refs for example assume that the
>     alternate is backed by a filesystem path, and that this filesystem
>     path may also allow us to read references. This is not a given
>     though, as backends may not even have local data at all.
>

These two points do make sense around moving alternates into the files source.

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> In short, there are a bunch of conceptual mismatches when we have
> alternates and pluggable object databases coexist. So while the original
> idea was nice, it does not result in a system that is easy to reason
> about.
>
> Correct course by moving alternates into the "files" source itself so
> that it becomes an implementation detail thereof so that we can avoid
> all of these shortcomings. While it's unfortunate that we cannot easily
> mix and match sources now, that ability doesn't go away. It's still very
> much feasible to introduce a new backend that allows for exactly that
> use case, and such a backend may also be a lot more flexible as we can
> now add new logic to determine which objects should be stored where. So
> the original motivation for having per-source backends can still be
> realized with the new architecture.
>

Okay, this makes sense, so the new source could be merged source of some sorts, with internal logic which it uses to map to different sources. Nice.

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> Note that as part of this move, we also handle the GIT_OBJECT_DIRECTORY
> and GIT_ALTERNATE_OBJECT_DIRECTORIES environment variables in the
> "files" backend. This may be surprising at first, but object directories
> are very much a concept of that backend, too. So these variables would
> have bad interactions with other backends, and they create a bit of a
> mismatch with the eventual object storage extension that we plan to
> introduce.
>

Yeah, this makes sense. The term 'DIRECTORY' itself is not always extensible to other sources.

[snip]
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> diff --git a/midx.c b/midx.c
> index c0f82c4163..8638ddf0be 100644
> --- a/midx.c
> +++ b/midx.c
> @@ -829,21 +829,15 @@ void clear_incremental_midx_files_ext(struct odb_source_packed *source, const ch
>
>  void clear_midx_file(struct repository *r)
>  {
> -	struct odb_source_files *files;
> +	struct odb_source_files *files = odb_source_files_downcast(r->objects->source);
We remove the the previous `if(r->objects)` check here, is that okay?
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>  	struct strbuf midx = STRBUF_INIT;
>
> -	if (r->objects) {
> -		struct odb_source *source;
> -
> -		for (source = r->objects->sources; source; source = source->next) {
> -			files = odb_source_files_downcast(source);
> -			if (files->dirs->packed->midx)
> -				close_midx(files->dirs->packed->midx);
> -			files->dirs->packed->midx = NULL;
> -		}
> +	for (struct odb_files_dir *dir = files->dirs; dir; dir = dir->next) {
> +		if (dir->packed->midx)
> +			close_midx(dir->packed->midx);
> +		dir->packed->midx = NULL;
>  	}
>
> -	files = odb_source_files_downcast(r->objects->sources);
>  	get_midx_filename(files->dirs->packed, &midx);
>
>  	if (remove_path(midx.buf))
[snip]

This is the only question I have in this big patch, I did a full read and tried to compare the moves visually and they looked okay to me.

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Message 23 of 26 in “odb/source-files: move alternates into the backend”
  1. 00/13 odb/source-files: move alternates into the backendPatrick Steinhardt, Oct 2, 2026
  2. 01/13 commit-graph: require resolved packfile paths for `stdin_packs`Patrick Steinhardt, Oct 2, 2026
  3. 02/13 commit-graph: stop depending on `struct odb_source`Patrick Steinhardt, Oct 2, 2026
  4. 03/13 odb/source-files: introduce `struct odb_files_dir`Patrick Steinhardt, Oct 2, 2026
  5. 04/13 odb: refactor `odb_for_each_alternate()` to yield dirsPatrick Steinhardt, Oct 2, 2026
  6. 05/13 odb: refactor `odb_find_source()` to yield dirsPatrick Steinhardt, Oct 2, 2026
  7. 06/13 odb/source-files: add the ability to have multiple object dirsPatrick Steinhardt, Oct 2, 2026
  8. 07/13 tmp-objdir: absorb logic to set and restore primary sourcesPatrick Steinhardt, Oct 2, 2026
  9. 08/13 tmp-objdir: manage quarantine as an object directoryPatrick Steinhardt, Oct 2, 2026
  10. 09/13 tmp-objdir: replace primary source at creation timePatrick Steinhardt, Oct 2, 2026
  11. 10/13 odb/source: make `will_destroy` an implementation detailPatrick Steinhardt, Oct 2, 2026
  12. 11/13 odb/source-files: extract reading alternatesPatrick Steinhardt, Oct 2, 2026
  13. 12/13 odb/source-files: move alternates into the backendPatrick Steinhardt, Oct 2, 2026
  14. 13/13 odb/source: drop `read_alternates` callbackPatrick Steinhardt, Oct 2, 2026
  15. Karthik NayakOct 5, 2026
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  17. Karthik NayakOct 6, 2026
  18. Patrick SteinhardtOct 6, 2026
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  25. Patrick SteinhardtOct 7, 2026
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