Re: [PATCH 0/4] remote-hg: more improvements

From: Philippe Vaucher <philippe.vaucher@gmail.com>
Date: May 14, 2014, 16:06 UTC
Message-ID: <CAGK7Mr7jhpizoHuA9NDnyNPy_rr8_R0m8-hCFO3CDn2Hbh3_pQ@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <87a9aktqms.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>

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>> I'm sorry that my words aren't clear enough for you to infer the point
>> I'm trying to make. Let's try something simpler: what I was saying is
>> that bad behavior will get you into trouble when contributing (and
>> thus it's important to behave nicely), where Felipe usualy says bad
>> behavior is irrelevant because only truth/quality is important.
>
> Do you feel Felipe is in control of what you label bad behavior?  Do you
> feel you are in control over how you react to his behavior?

I feel that Felipe cannot control this (or decided not to), and I feel that I am pretty much in control of my reactions given I am able to not "give in" to the burst of emotions that some of his behavior can trigger. For the record I'm not really blaming Felipe for what he does, I'm saying a solution has to be found to prevent his behavior from harming people, and that a solution that involves everyone adapting to Felipe is not reasonable.

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> Yesterday my girl friend bought back a mare she had sold two years ago
> because its owner did not manage to get along with it.  It's a
> temperamental animal that learns and performs amazingly well for its
> comparatively compact build.  But it's highest in rank "or else", and so
> in the end it got locked up in its stable box most of the time in order
> to avoid injuries to other horses.  Now it's back here at the riding
> school, and there is little question that there will be some injuries
> before things settle down again even though most of the horses here know
> it already.

I think that is the point: behave properly or be isolated to avoid harming others. Wether you control your behavior or not has little to do with it, it's your behavior that counts. That's how it works in pretty much any communities I know of.

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> It may be that distributed version control systems offer more
> possibilities for organizing cooperation in a manner leaving graceful
> escape paths when things don't work out.  It's not what one want to have
> to rely on permanently but it may be worth thinking about ways to make
> consequences from difficulties less "inevitable" and/or grave.

Sure, I believe my proposal of acting on bad behavior earlier would prevent incidents like this one, because it would defuse situations before they settle in. But that's just a proposal, I'm just an observer here.

Philippe