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Re: Python extension commands in git - request for policy change

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PDPatrick Donnelly <batrick@batbytes.com>
Date
Dec 12, 2012, 07:11 UTC
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Hi Eric,
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Eric S. Raymond <esr@thyrsus.com> wrote:
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> It might be a good fit for extending git; I wouldn't be very surprised if
> that worked. However, I do have concerns about the "Oh, we'll just
> lash together a binding to C" attitude common among lua programmers; I
> foresee maintainability problems and the possibility of slow death by
> low-level details as that strategy tries to scale up.

I think this is quite a prediction? Could you give an example scenario? How would another language (e.g. Python) mitigate this?

> And, of course, one problem with calling back into C a lot is that
> you walk back into C's resource-management issues.

C resource management can be effectively dealt with by relying on Lua's GC to track C resources via userdata.

> My sense is that git's use cases are better served by a glue language
> in the Python/Perl/Ruby class rather than an extension langage. But
> my mind is open on this issue.
I don't see how these languages are more appropriate based on your concerns.
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- Patrick Donnelly
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