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Re: Python extension commands in git - request for policy change

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KMKrzysztof Mazur <krzysiek@podlesie.net>
Date
Nov 25, 2012, 21:41 UTC
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On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 09:44:51PM -0500, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
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> 
> We're behind the best-practices curve here.  The major Linux
> distributions, which have to deal with almost the same set of
> tradeoffs we do, went to Python for pretty much all glue and
> administration scripts outside /etc a decade ago, and the decision has
> served them well.
> 
> That, among other things, means up-to-date versions of Python are
> ubiquitous unless we're looking at Windows - in which case Perl and
> shell actually become much bigger portability problems.  Mac OS X 
> has kept up to date, too; Lion shipped 2.7.1 and that was a major
> release back at this point.
>

What about embedded systems? git is also useful there. C and shell is everywhere, python is not. Adding additional dependency if it's not really needed it's not a good idea.

Also not everyone uses up-to-date systems and sometimes you just care about some critical parts and do not touch everything else and there is probably quote large number of systems with python < 2.6. And even when you keep your system up-to-date, there are some GNU/Linux distros that are still supported, but does not provide recent python - for instance PLD Ac, which I still use on some systems and will use until the hardware dies, provides only python 2.4.6 (by the way, important packages like git are of course quite recent there - 1.7.11.1).

Krzysiek
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