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Re: [PATCH] fast-(import|export): improve on the signature algorithm name

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Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
Date
May 28, 2025, 23:15 UTC
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On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 2:59 PM Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
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> Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Often
> > when we have deprecated or changed an option our process was to first
> > produce an error and update documentation and wait a while, then go
> > and change the default after a sufficiently long time.  Here, we had
> > kind of stopped at just producing the error with no plans to take
> > another step.  If that was the route we took in the past, what makes
> > this considered a breakage and not the other changes we made?
> >
> > (Just curious, I'm not against this change.)
>
> What is wrong is the behaviour change in the original, which luckily
> is not in any released versions (except for 2.50-rc0, which should
> not count, as I think we should do this toning-down before -rc1).
>
> We used to silently ignore and strip commit signatures and that has
> always been the behaviour the existing users have relied upon; we
> started requiring these existing users to either explicitly pass
> --signed-c=strip or set an environmtne variable.  A new feature
> should be opt-in to make the transition smoother, but the topic did
> not follow that pattern.
>
> I view this last-minute band-aid patch that flips the default back
> to what it used to be as remedying that mistake in the original
> series.

An earlier version of the series did keep the stripping, but you were the one who objected (https://lore.kernel.org/git/xmqqfszbcazc.fsf@gitster.g/):

""" Why deliberate inconsistency? I am not sure "historically we did a wrong thing" is a good reason (if we view that silently stripping was a disservice to the users, aborting would be a bugfix). """

and later in the series (https://lore.kernel.org/git/xmqqim44fyjj.fsf@gitster.g/), you added:

""" Thanks. The "filter-repo already gets bug reports from the users" is a valuable input when deciding if it is reasonable to sell the behaviour change as a bugfix to our users. """

Personally, I kind of think abort makes more sense as the default -- at some point. So I'm curious if you've just changed your mind completely from before and are against changing the default at all, whether you think there's more steps that should be done before we change the default, or whether this new flag feeling incomplete and development related to it being slow moving means we should wait off until we have a better picture of where it'll end up and leave the defaults alone until we get there. (I'm kind of leaning towards the 3rd of those, but am curious if I'm misaligned with your vision.)

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  1. fast-(import|export): improve on the signature algorithm nameChristian Couder, Apr 24, 2025
  2. Junio C HamanoApr 24, 2025
  3. Elijah NewrenApr 24, 2025
  4. Junio C HamanoApr 24, 2025
  5. Christian CouderMay 26, 2025
  6. Junio C HamanoMay 27, 2025
  7. Junio C HamanoMay 28, 2025
  8. Elijah NewrenMay 28, 2025
  9. Junio C HamanoMay 28, 2025
  10. Elijah NewrenMay 28, 2025
  11. Junio C HamanoMay 29, 2025
  12. Christian CouderJun 2, 2025
  13. Christian CouderJun 2, 2025
  14. Junio C HamanoJun 2, 2025
  15. Christian CouderMay 26, 2025
  16. Elijah NewrenApr 24, 2025
  17. Christian CouderMay 26, 2025
  18. brian m. carlsonApr 24, 2025
  19. Christian CouderMay 26, 2025
  20. Junio C HamanoApr 24, 2025
  21. 0/6 extract algo information from signaturesChristian Couder, May 26, 2025
  22. 1/6 gpg-interface: simplify ssh fingerprint parsingChristian Couder, May 26, 2025
  23. 2/6 gpg-interface: use left shift to define GPG_VERIFY_*Christian Couder, May 26, 2025
  24. 3/6 doc/verify-commit: update and improve the whole docChristian Couder, May 26, 2025
  25. 4/6 gpg-interface: extract hash algorithm from signature status outputChristian Couder, May 26, 2025
  26. 5/6 gpg-interface: extract SSH key type from signature status outputChristian Couder, May 26, 2025
  27. 6/6 verify-commit: add a --summary flagChristian Couder, May 26, 2025
  28. Elijah NewrenMay 26, 2025
  29. Christian CouderJun 19, 2025
  30. brian m. carlsonJun 2, 2025
  31. Christian CouderJun 19, 2025
  32. fast-(import|export): improve on commit signature output formatChristian Couder, Jun 18, 2025
  33. fast-(import|export): improve on commit signature output formatChristian Couder, Jun 19, 2025
  34. Junio C HamanoJun 19, 2025
  35. Christian CouderJul 8, 2025
  36. Elijah NewrenJun 19, 2025
  37. Christian CouderJun 20, 2025
  38. Junio C HamanoJun 20, 2025
  39. Christian CouderJul 8, 2025
  40. Elijah NewrenJun 26, 2025
  41. Christian CouderJul 8, 2025
  42. Junio C HamanoJul 7, 2025
  43. Christian CouderJul 8, 2025
  44. Junio C HamanoJul 8, 2025
  45. Patrick SteinhardtJul 8, 2025
  46. Christian CouderJul 8, 2025
  47. Junio C HamanoJul 8, 2025
  48. Christian CouderJul 9, 2025
  49. Junio C HamanoJul 9, 2025
  50. Patrick SteinhardtJul 10, 2025
  51. Christian CouderJul 10, 2025
  52. Junio C HamanoJul 10, 2025
  53. Christian CouderJul 8, 2025
  54. fast-(import|export): improve on commit signature output formatChristian Couder, Jul 8, 2025
  55. Junio C HamanoJul 8, 2025
  56. Elijah NewrenJul 8, 2025
  57. Junio C HamanoJul 9, 2025
  58. Elijah NewrenJul 9, 2025
  59. Christian CouderJul 9, 2025
  60. Christian CouderJul 9, 2025
  61. fast-(import|export): improve on commit signature output formatChristian Couder, Jul 9, 2025
  62. Junio C HamanoJul 9, 2025
  63. Elijah NewrenJul 14, 2025
  64. Junio C HamanoJul 14, 2025
  65. Christian CouderJul 25, 2025

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