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Re: git-diff on touched files: bug or feature?

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Date
Aug 3, 2007, 07:59 UTC
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Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:
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> On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 12:56:19PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>
>> Personally, I almost never run "git status".  The command is
>> there primarily because other systems had a command called
>> "status", and migrant wondered why we didn't.  We do not need
>> it, and we do not have to use it.
>
> So what is the recommended command to summarize which files have been
> modified, which files have been marked for commit, and which remain
> untracked?

Ok, you got me. If I need such a summary, git-status would obviously be the choice. Although I do admit that I added the interactive commit to support people who want to keep 30 hunks across 10 different files in the working tree, and make a commit using only 3 of them, I do not make partial commits myself, so distinction between staged and unstaged are not something I am usually interested in. If your workflow care about that distinction, and that is a very valid and natural workflow in git, you would find git-status and git-diff --cached more useful than they are to me. I should not used words such as optimum. It is just "different".

When you think about it, in such a workflow whose work tree that does not match commits created from it, it is not very useful to know the "touched but ended up unmodified", because (1) the worktree changes are full of not-yet-ready changes (to the immediate commit you are going to create) anyway, and (2) the "touched but not modified" files may further be modified and become modified before their changes hit a (later) commit. The side effect that "git-status" loses that information suddenly becomes a useful feature for such a workflow.

On the other hand, if your workflow is "work on one thing at a time, and never make partial commits", then your diff tends to be small and more focused to begin with, and you can afford to care about "touched but ended up unmodified". Interestingly, it happens to be a useful correlation that "git status", which clears such information, is less useful command for such a workflow.

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  1. Matthieu MoyAug 1, 2007
  2. Junio C HamanoAug 1, 2007
  3. Alexandre JulliardAug 1, 2007
  4. Junio C HamanoAug 1, 2007
  5. Alexandre JulliardAug 1, 2007
  6. Matthieu MoyAug 2, 2007
  7. Johannes SchindelinAug 2, 2007
  8. Matthieu MoyAug 2, 2007
  9. Johannes SchindelinAug 2, 2007
  10. Jean-François VeilletteAug 2, 2007
  11. Johannes SchindelinAug 2, 2007
  12. Steven GrimmAug 2, 2007
  13. Johannes SchindelinAug 2, 2007
  14. Matthieu MoyAug 2, 2007
  15. J. Bruce FieldsAug 2, 2007
  16. Add --show-touched option to show "diff --git" line when contents are unchangedSteven Grimm, Aug 3, 2007
  17. Junio C HamanoAug 3, 2007
  18. Johannes SchindelinAug 3, 2007
  19. Junio C HamanoAug 3, 2007
  20. Matthieu MoyAug 3, 2007
  21. Junio C HamanoAug 3, 2007
  22. Matthieu MoyAug 3, 2007
  23. Junio C HamanoAug 3, 2007
  24. Matthieu MoyAug 5, 2007
  25. Johannes SchindelinAug 5, 2007
  26. Matthieu MoyAug 5, 2007
  27. Matthias LederhoferAug 6, 2007
  28. David KastrupAug 6, 2007
  29. David KastrupAug 6, 2007
  30. Matthieu MoyAug 6, 2007
  31. Junio C HamanoAug 6, 2007
  32. David KastrupAug 7, 2007
  33. J. Bruce FieldsAug 7, 2007
  34. Linus TorvaldsAug 7, 2007
  35. Junio C HamanoAug 7, 2007
  36. David KastrupAug 7, 2007
  37. Linus TorvaldsAug 8, 2007
  38. Junio C HamanoAug 8, 2007
  39. Johannes SchindelinAug 8, 2007
  40. Junio C HamanoAug 8, 2007
  41. David KastrupAug 8, 2007
  42. Johannes SchindelinAug 8, 2007
  43. Jakub NarebskiAug 8, 2007
  44. Steven GrimmAug 7, 2007
  45. Add a note about the index being updated by git-status in some casesSteven Grimm, Aug 7, 2007
  46. git-diff: Output a warning about stale files in the indexSteven Grimm, Aug 7, 2007
  47. Junio C HamanoAug 7, 2007
  48. git-diff: Output a warning about stale files in the indexSteven Grimm, Aug 7, 2007
  49. Junio C HamanoAug 7, 2007
  50. Steven GrimmAug 7, 2007
  51. Jakub NarebskiAug 7, 2007
  52. Junio C HamanoAug 11, 2007
  53. Linus TorvaldsAug 8, 2007
  54. Steven GrimmAug 7, 2007
  55. Matthieu MoyAug 7, 2007
  56. Junio C HamanoAug 2, 2007
  57. Junio C HamanoAug 2, 2007
  58. Junio C HamanoAug 2, 2007
  59. Matthieu MoyAug 2, 2007
  60. Johannes SchindelinAug 2, 2007
  61. Junio C HamanoAug 2, 2007
  62. Jeff KingAug 3, 2007
  63. Junio C HamanoAug 3, 2007
  64. Jeff KingAug 3, 2007
  65. Junio C HamanoAug 3, 2007
  66. Shawn O. PearceAug 3, 2007
  67. Junio C HamanoAug 3, 2007
  68. Matthieu MoyAug 2, 2007
  69. Johannes SchindelinAug 2, 2007
  70. Matthieu MoyAug 2, 2007
  71. Johannes SchindelinAug 2, 2007
  72. Matthieu MoyAug 2, 2007
  73. Johannes SchindelinAug 2, 2007
  74. Joel ReedAug 2, 2007
  75. Johannes SchindelinAug 2, 2007

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