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Re: [PATCH/RFC v2 0/16] Introduce index file format version 5

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Date
Aug 7, 2012, 23:26 UTC
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Thomas Rast <trast@student.ethz.ch> writes:
> I like the general idea, too, but I think there is a long way ahead, and
> we shouldn't hold up v5 on this.

We shouldn't rush, only to keep some deadline, and regret it later that we butchered the index format without thinking things through. When this was added to the GSoC idea page, I already said upfront that this was way too big a topic to be a GSoC project, didn't I?

> It would open some interesting possibilities.

It is unclear why the current format is less easier to get the same kind of enhancement compared to the proposed v5 for the same kind of "possibilities."

"This codepath currently does things this way because it is limited by the flat in-core index. That codepath does a similar thing, and that other one has the same issue. They all can benefit if we give them this API, and the implementation of the API could benefit if the underlying on-disk format is changed that way. And the other codepaths that use the current API won't be broken by the on-disk format change, as all the accesses are encapsulated with this patch without losing performance, readability nor modifiability" is very much acceptable [*1*], but "The new on-disk format is different from the current one, and as it is different from the current one, we can easily enhance it even more by hooking anything interesting to it!" does not sound like a valid argument.

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> For example, for v5 it
> would be far better if conflicted and resolve-undo entries were a
> property of the normal index entry, instead of something that so happens
> to be consecutive entries and in a completely different place,
> respectively.

I am not sure I am convinced. Conflicts are already expressed by an attribute on a normal index entry (it is called "stage"), and because we check for "is the index fully merged" fairly often, it makes sense to have it in each entry. Actually having an unmerged entry is a rare event (happens only during a mergy operation that gave control back to you), so we do not lose much by expressing them as consecutive entries. Resolve-undo is far less often used, and is not an essential feature, so it makes perfect sense to have it as an optional index extension to allow versions of Git that are unaware of it to still use an index file that has it.

I do not find your "For example" argument particularly convincing rationale to go to the proposed v5, even if I thought resolve-undo were one of the more important things in the index (which I don't).

[Footnote]

*1* Duy's "'ls-files $path' would benefit from a path-limited index file reader, and the function to do so would be an obvious new API that would benefit from tree-shaped on-disk format" suggestion is a design going in the right direction, as long as it is accompanied with "for the remaining users that need the whole index as a linear array, reading such a tree-shaped on-disk format can be supported without loss of performance with this patch".

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Message 56 of 59 in “Introduce index file format version 5”
  1. 0/16 Introduce index file format version 5Thomas Gummerer, Aug 5, 2012
  2. 01/16 Modify cache_header to prepare for other index formatsThomas Gummerer, Aug 5, 2012
  3. Junio C HamanoAug 6, 2012
  4. Thomas GummererAug 7, 2012
  5. Junio C HamanoAug 7, 2012
  6. 02/16 Modify read functions to prepare for other index formatsThomas Gummerer, Aug 5, 2012
  7. 03/16 Modify match_stat_basic to prepare for other index formatsThomas Gummerer, Aug 5, 2012
  8. 04/16 Modify write functions to prepare for other index formatsThomas Gummerer, Aug 5, 2012
  9. Junio C HamanoAug 6, 2012
  10. Thomas GummererAug 7, 2012
  11. 05/16 t2104: Don't fail for index versions other than [23]Thomas Gummerer, Aug 5, 2012
  12. Junio C HamanoAug 6, 2012
  13. 06/16 t3700: sleep for 1 second, to avoid interfering with the racy codeThomas Gummerer, Aug 5, 2012
  14. Junio C HamanoAug 6, 2012
  15. Thomas GummererAug 7, 2012
  16. Junio C HamanoAug 8, 2012
  17. Junio C HamanoAug 8, 2012
  18. Thomas GummererAug 9, 2012
  19. Junio C HamanoAug 9, 2012
  20. Thomas GummererAug 9, 2012
  21. 07/16 Add documentation of the index-v5 file formatThomas Gummerer, Aug 5, 2012
  22. 08/16 Make in-memory format aware of stat_crcThomas Gummerer, Aug 5, 2012
  23. Junio C HamanoAug 6, 2012
  24. Thomas GummererAug 7, 2012
  25. 09/16 Read index-v5Thomas Gummerer, Aug 5, 2012
  26. Junio C HamanoAug 6, 2012
  27. Thomas GummererAug 8, 2012
  28. Junio C HamanoAug 8, 2012
  29. Thomas GummererAug 8, 2012
  30. Junio C HamanoAug 8, 2012
  31. 10/16 Read resolve-undo dataThomas Gummerer, Aug 5, 2012
  32. Junio C HamanoAug 6, 2012
  33. Thomas GummererAug 7, 2012
  34. 11/16 Read cache-tree in index-v5Thomas Gummerer, Aug 5, 2012
  35. 12/16 Write index-v5Thomas Gummerer, Aug 5, 2012
  36. 13/16 Write index-v5 cache-tree dataThomas Gummerer, Aug 5, 2012
  37. 14/16 Write resolve-undo data for index-v5Thomas Gummerer, Aug 5, 2012
  38. 15/16 update-index.c: add a force-rewrite optionThomas Gummerer, Aug 5, 2012
  39. Junio C HamanoAug 6, 2012
  40. Thomas GummererAug 8, 2012
  41. 16/16 p0002-index.sh: add perf test for the index formatsThomas Gummerer, Aug 5, 2012
  42. Nguyễn Thái Ngọc DuyAug 6, 2012
  43. 1/2 Move index v2 specific code out of read-cacheNguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Aug 6, 2012
  44. 2/2 Add index-v5Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Aug 6, 2012
  45. Robin RosenbergAug 7, 2012
  46. Thomas GummererAug 8, 2012
  47. Junio C HamanoAug 6, 2012
  48. Thomas GummererAug 6, 2012
  49. Junio C HamanoAug 6, 2012
  50. Nguyen Thai Ngoc DuyAug 7, 2012
  51. Junio C HamanoAug 8, 2012
  52. Nguyen Thai Ngoc DuyAug 8, 2012
  53. Junio C HamanoAug 8, 2012
  54. Nguyen Thai Ngoc DuyAug 9, 2012
  55. Thomas RastAug 7, 2012
  56. Junio C HamanoAug 7, 2012
  57. Thomas RastAug 8, 2012
  58. Junio C HamanoAug 8, 2012
  59. Nguyen Thai Ngoc DuyAug 8, 2012

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