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Re: [PATCH 0/6] Use time_t

From
René Scharfe <l.s.r@web.de>
Date
Feb 28, 2017, 21:31 UTC
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Am 28.02.2017 um 21:54 schrieb Johannes Schindelin:
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> Hi Junio,
>
> On Tue, 28 Feb 2017, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>
>> René Scharfe <l.s.r@web.de> writes:
>>
>>> Am 28.02.2017 um 15:28 schrieb Jeff King:
>>>
>>>> It looks from the discussion like the sanest path forward is our own
>>>> signed-64bit timestamp_t. That's unfortunate compared to using the
>>>> standard time_t, but hopefully it would reduce the number of knobs
>>>> (like TIME_T_IS_INT64) in the long run.
>>>
>>> Glibc will get a way to enable 64-bit time_t on 32-bit platforms
>>> eventually (https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/Y2038ProofnessDesign).
>>> Can platforms that won't provide a 64-bit time_t by 2038 be actually
>>> used at that point?  How would we get time information on them?  How
>>> would a custom timestamp_t help us?
>>
>> That's a sensible "wait, let's step back a bit".  I take it that you are
>> saying "time_t is just fine", and I am inclined to agree.
>>
>> Right now, they may be able to have future timestamps ranging to
>> year 2100 and switching to time_t would limit their ability to
>> express future time to 2038 but they would be able to express
>> timestamp in the past to cover most of 20th century.  Given that
>> these 32-bit time_t software platforms will die off before year 2038
>> (either by underlying hardware getting obsolete, or software updated
>> to handle 64-bit time_t), the (temporary) loss of 2038-2100 range
>> would not be too big a deal to warrant additional complexity.
>
> You seem to assume that time_t is required to be signed. But from my
> understanding that is only guaranteed by POSIX, not by ISO C.
>
> We may very well buy ourselves a ton of trouble if we decide to switch to
> `time_t` rather than to `int64_t`.

True, and time_t doesn't even have to be an integer type. But which platforms capable of running git use something else than int32_t or int64_t?

René
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Message 23 of 113 in “Use time_t”
  1. 0/6 Use time_tJohannes Schindelin, Feb 27, 2017
  2. 5/6 ref-filter: avoid using `unsigned long` for catch-all data typeJohannes Schindelin, Feb 27, 2017
  3. 4/6 Prepare for timestamps to use 64-bit signed typesJohannes Schindelin, Feb 27, 2017
  4. 3/6 Introduce a new "printf format" for timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Feb 27, 2017
  5. Junio C HamanoMar 1, 2017
  6. Junio C HamanoMar 1, 2017
  7. 2/6 Specify explicitly where we parse timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Feb 27, 2017
  8. Junio C HamanoFeb 27, 2017
  9. Junio C HamanoFeb 27, 2017
  10. Johannes SchindelinFeb 28, 2017
  11. 1/6 t0006 & t5000: prepare for 64-bit time_tJohannes Schindelin, Feb 27, 2017
  12. Junio C HamanoFeb 27, 2017
  13. 6/6 Use time_t where appropriateJohannes Schindelin, Feb 27, 2017
  14. Junio C HamanoFeb 27, 2017
  15. Johannes SchindelinFeb 28, 2017
  16. Jeff KingFeb 28, 2017
  17. Johannes SchindelinFeb 28, 2017
  18. René ScharfeFeb 28, 2017
  19. Junio C HamanoFeb 28, 2017
  20. Jeff KingFeb 28, 2017
  21. Johannes SchindelinFeb 28, 2017
  22. Jeff KingFeb 28, 2017
  23. René ScharfeFeb 28, 2017
  24. Johannes SchindelinFeb 28, 2017
  25. René ScharfeMar 1, 2017
  26. Junio C HamanoFeb 28, 2017
  27. Jeff KingFeb 28, 2017
  28. Junio C HamanoFeb 28, 2017
  29. Jeff KingFeb 28, 2017
  30. Junio C HamanoMar 1, 2017
  31. 0/8 Introduce timestamp_t for timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 2, 2017
  32. 1/8 ref-filter: avoid using `unsigned long` for catch-all data typeJohannes Schindelin, Apr 2, 2017
  33. Torsten BögershausenApr 3, 2017
  34. Johannes SchindelinApr 3, 2017
  35. 2/8 t0006 & t5000: prepare for 64-bit timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 2, 2017
  36. 3/8 t0006 & t5000: skip "far in the future" test when time_t is too limitedJohannes Schindelin, Apr 2, 2017
  37. 4/8 Specify explicitly where we parse timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 2, 2017
  38. Torsten BögershausenApr 3, 2017
  39. Johannes SchindelinApr 3, 2017
  40. 5/8 Introduce a new "printf format" for timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 2, 2017
  41. 6/8 Introduce a new data type for timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 2, 2017
  42. 7/8 Abort if the system time cannot handle one of our timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 2, 2017
  43. 8/8 Use uintmax_t for timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 2, 2017
  44. 0/8 Introduce timestamp_t for timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 20, 2017
  45. 1/8 ref-filter: avoid using `unsigned long` for catch-all data typeJohannes Schindelin, Apr 20, 2017
  46. 2/8 t0006 & t5000: prepare for 64-bit timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 20, 2017
  47. 3/8 t0006 & t5000: skip "far in the future" test when time_t is too limitedJohannes Schindelin, Apr 20, 2017
  48. 4/8 Specify explicitly where we parse timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 20, 2017
  49. 5/8 Introduce a new "printf format" for timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 20, 2017
  50. 6/8 Introduce a new data type for timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 20, 2017
  51. 8/8 Use uintmax_t for timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 20, 2017
  52. 7/8 Abort if the system time cannot handle one of our timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 20, 2017
  53. Junio C HamanoApr 21, 2017
  54. Johannes SchindelinApr 21, 2017
  55. 0/9 Introduce timestamp_t for timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 21, 2017
  56. 1/9 ref-filter: avoid using `unsigned long` for catch-all data typeJohannes Schindelin, Apr 21, 2017
  57. 2/9 t0006 & t5000: prepare for 64-bit timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 21, 2017
  58. 3/9 t0006 & t5000: skip "far in the future" test when time_t is too limitedJohannes Schindelin, Apr 21, 2017
  59. 4/9 Specify explicitly where we parse timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 21, 2017
  60. Junio C HamanoApr 24, 2017
  61. 5/9 Introduce a new "printf format" for timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 21, 2017
  62. 6/9 Introduce a new data type for timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 21, 2017
  63. 7/9 Abort if the system time cannot handle one of our timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 21, 2017
  64. Junio C HamanoApr 24, 2017
  65. Johannes SchindelinApr 24, 2017
  66. Junio C HamanoApr 25, 2017
  67. Junio C HamanoApr 25, 2017
  68. 8/9 Use uintmax_t for timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 21, 2017
  69. Junio C HamanoApr 24, 2017
  70. Johannes SchindelinApr 24, 2017
  71. Junio C HamanoApr 25, 2017
  72. Johannes SchindelinApr 25, 2017
  73. Junio C HamanoApr 26, 2017
  74. Junio C HamanoApr 26, 2017
  75. Johannes SchindelinApr 26, 2017
  76. Junio C HamanoApr 26, 2017
  77. 9/9 show_date_ident(): defer date overflow checkJohannes Schindelin, Apr 21, 2017
  78. Junio C HamanoApr 24, 2017
  79. Jacob KellerApr 24, 2017
  80. Johannes SchindelinApr 24, 2017
  81. Jeff KingApr 24, 2017
  82. Johannes SchindelinApr 25, 2017
  83. Johannes SchindelinApr 24, 2017
  84. 0/8 Introduce timestamp_t for timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 24, 2017
  85. 1/8 ref-filter: avoid using `unsigned long` for catch-all data typeJohannes Schindelin, Apr 24, 2017
  86. 2/8 t0006 & t5000: prepare for 64-bit timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 24, 2017
  87. 3/8 t0006 & t5000: skip "far in the future" test when time_t is too limitedJohannes Schindelin, Apr 24, 2017
  88. 5/8 Introduce a new "printf format" for timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 24, 2017
  89. 4/8 Specify explicitly where we parse timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 24, 2017
  90. Junio C HamanoApr 25, 2017
  91. 6/8 Introduce a new data type for timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 24, 2017
  92. Johannes SixtApr 26, 2017
  93. Johannes SchindelinApr 26, 2017
  94. René ScharfeApr 26, 2017
  95. 7/8 Abort if the system time cannot handle one of our timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 24, 2017
  96. 8/8 Use uintmax_t for timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 24, 2017
  97. Johannes SixtApr 26, 2017
  98. Johannes SchindelinApr 26, 2017
  99. René ScharfeApr 25, 2017
  100. Johannes SchindelinApr 25, 2017
  101. René ScharfeApr 26, 2017
  102. Junio C HamanoApr 26, 2017
  103. 0/8 Introduce timestamp_t for timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 26, 2017
  104. 1/8 ref-filter: avoid using `unsigned long` for catch-all data typeJohannes Schindelin, Apr 26, 2017
  105. 2/8 t0006 & t5000: prepare for 64-bit timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 26, 2017
  106. 3/8 t0006 & t5000: skip "far in the future" test when time_t is too limitedJohannes Schindelin, Apr 26, 2017
  107. 4/8 Specify explicitly where we parse timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 26, 2017
  108. 5/8 Introduce a new "printf format" for timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 26, 2017
  109. 6/8 Introduce a new data type for timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 26, 2017
  110. name-rev: change a "long" variable to timestamp_tJunio C Hamano, May 20, 2017
  111. Johannes SchindelinMay 22, 2017
  112. 7/8 Abort if the system time cannot handle one of our timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 26, 2017
  113. 8/8 Use uintmax_t for timestampsJohannes Schindelin, Apr 26, 2017

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