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Re: Message from 'git-rebase'; German translation

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Michael J Gruber <git@drmicha.warpmail.net>
Date
Sep 24, 2012, 07:33 UTC
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Sascha Cunz venit, vidit, dixit 22.09.2012 23:57:
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> As I know how hard translations can be, esp. with that much technical terms 
> inside, I'm usually expecting _not_ to yield the same result when translating 
> a software's translation back to English.
> 
> However, git-rebase just threw these two sentences at me (And though i know 
> their meaning, i couldn't get the meaning from the message, it gave). Both are 
> in context of starting a rebase while one is already in progress.
> 
> first is:
> 
> Original:
> ... and I wonder if you are in the middle of another rebase.
> 
> German git translation:
> ... und es wäre verwunderlich, wenn ein Neuaufbau bereits im Gange ist.
> 
> And a re-translation back to English from my understanding as native German 
> speaker:
> ... and it would be astonishing (=i'd be surprised), if a rebase was already 
> in progress.
> 
> And second:
> 
> Original:
> I am stopping in case you still have something valuable there.
> 
> German git translation:
> Es wird angehalten, falls bereits etwas Nützliches vorhanden ist.
> 
> I wanted to point out that "etwas Nützliches" is more "something useful" that 
> "something valuable". But the more I thought about it, the more it started to 
> confuse me (even the original text) - and now I feel like I don't understand 
> the meaning of the last sentence at all; neither in English nor in the German 
> translation:
> After removing the directory with all rebase-information inside it, WHERE 
> should something valuable still be left over? Is it referring to my working 
> tree?
> 
> So, for completeness, the full English message:
> 
> 	It seems that there is already a rebase-merge directory, and
> 	I wonder if you are in the middle of another rebase.  If that is the
> 	case, please try
>      	   git rebase (--continue | --abort | --skip)
> 	If that is not the case, please
> 	        rm -fr "/work/lg2/src/.git/rebase-merge"
> 	and run me again.  I am stopping in case you still have something
> 	valuable there.
> 
> Sascha
> 

Both translations are completely wrong on two accounts: They are a wrong translation of the English original into German (making typical mistakes like "false friends" [wonder != wundern] etc.), and they convey a completely wrong idea about what git is doing and about to do (by translating a message without knowing when and why it is given). Unfortunately, neither comes to me as a surprise.

I'm sorry I'm too frustrated by the German l10n community to try to help again (and the ensuing thread just reinforces that feeling), but to end on a positive note let me just point out:

'in case ...' = 'für den Fall dass ...' (attributiv)
'in the case  ...' = 'im Fall dass ...' (konditional)
Michael
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  1. Sascha CunzSep 22, 2012
  2. Ralf ThielowSep 23, 2012
  3. knittlSep 23, 2012
  4. Sascha CunzSep 23, 2012
  5. Sascha CunzSep 23, 2012
  6. Ralf ThielowSep 23, 2012
  7. Sascha CunzSep 23, 2012
  8. Jan EngelhardtSep 23, 2012
  9. Greg TroxelSep 24, 2012
  10. Thomas HochsteinSep 24, 2012
  11. Michael J GruberSep 24, 2012

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