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Dumb servers (was: [ANNOUNCE] Cogito-0.12)

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KSKevin Smith <yarcs@qualitycode.com>
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Jul 8, 2005, 01:54 UTC
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Eric W. Biederman wrote:
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> Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> writes:
> 
> 
>>That said, I really think the dumb protocols are useless anyway. No other 
>>system supports pure static object pulling anyway, and as far as I'm 
>>concerned, I want "rsync" to kind of work (but it won't be optimal, since 
>>re-packing will delete all the old objects and replace it with the new 
>>pack that is downloaded anew). But plain http? I'm not convinced.
> 
> 
> Have you not looked at tla/arch? tla does supports dumb servers.
> It's job is a little easier as it has one file per atomic commit
> I suspect once packs start working well that should not be an
> issue for git either.

In addition to GNU arch/tla, it it also supported by baz, ArX, darcs, and mercurial.

> For small projects this is a major benefit, as they can just push
> their files to a convenient http or ftp server.

Absolutely. For the kernel it might not make sense, but I view it as a really important feature for tiny projects around the world. Even a CGI requirement makes it impossible to serve a project from free or really cheap web hosts. Plain HTTP is the only protocol available to people who have no extra money to spend on hosting accounts.

This happens to be a hot button issue for me, in case you can't tell. Sorry if I'm ranting.

Kevin
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Message 13 of 66 in “[ANNOUNCE] Cogito-0.12”
  1. Petr BaudisJul 3, 2005
  2. Brian GerstJul 6, 2005
  3. Petr BaudisJul 7, 2005
  4. Junio C HamanoJul 7, 2005
  5. Linus TorvaldsJul 7, 2005
  6. Junio C HamanoJul 7, 2005
  7. Linus TorvaldsJul 7, 2005
  8. Junio C HamanoJul 7, 2005
  9. Junio C HamanoJul 7, 2005
  10. Eric W. BiedermanJul 7, 2005
  11. Linus TorvaldsJul 7, 2005
  12. Eric W. BiedermanJul 8, 2005
  13. Dumb servers (was: [ANNOUNCE] Cogito-0.12)Kevin Smith, Jul 8, 2005
  14. Linus TorvaldsJul 8, 2005
  15. Petr BaudisJul 7, 2005
  16. Linus TorvaldsJul 7, 2005
  17. Pull efficiently from a dumb git store.Junio C Hamano, Jul 7, 2005
  18. rev-list: add "--objects=self-sufficient" flag.Junio C Hamano, Jul 7, 2005
  19. Linus TorvaldsJul 7, 2005
  20. rev-list: add "--full-objects" flag.Junio C Hamano, Jul 8, 2005
  21. Linus TorvaldsJul 8, 2005
  22. Linus TorvaldsJul 8, 2005
  23. Junio C HamanoJul 8, 2005
  24. Linus TorvaldsJul 8, 2005
  25. Eric W. BiedermanJul 9, 2005
  26. Linus TorvaldsJul 10, 2005
  27. Junio C HamanoJul 10, 2005
  28. Sven VerdoolaegeJul 10, 2005
  29. Linus TorvaldsJul 10, 2005
  30. Eric W. BiedermanJul 11, 2005
  31. Linus TorvaldsJul 11, 2005
  32. Eric W. BiedermanJul 12, 2005
  33. Linus TorvaldsJul 12, 2005
  34. Eric W. BiedermanJul 12, 2005
  35. Linus TorvaldsJul 12, 2005
  36. Eric W. BiedermanJul 12, 2005
  37. Linus TorvaldsJul 12, 2005
  38. Linus TorvaldsJul 11, 2005
  39. Give --full-objects flag to rev-list when preparing a dumb server.Junio C Hamano, Jul 8, 2005
  40. Use --objects=self-sufficient flag to rev-list.Junio C Hamano, Jul 7, 2005
  41. Tony LuckJul 7, 2005
  42. Junio C HamanoJul 7, 2005
  43. Linus TorvaldsJul 7, 2005
  44. Tony LuckJul 8, 2005
  45. Linus TorvaldsJul 8, 2005
  46. Russell KingJul 9, 2005
  47. Russell KingJul 9, 2005
  48. Junio C HamanoJul 9, 2005
  49. Linus TorvaldsJul 10, 2005
  50. Linus TorvaldsJul 10, 2005
  51. Russell KingJul 10, 2005
  52. Junio C HamanoJul 10, 2005
  53. Russell KingJul 10, 2005
  54. Linus TorvaldsJul 10, 2005
  55. Russell KingJul 10, 2005
  56. Linus TorvaldsJul 10, 2005
  57. Russell KingJul 10, 2005
  58. Linus TorvaldsJul 10, 2005
  59. Russell KingJul 10, 2005
  60. Petr BaudisJul 10, 2005
  61. Chris WrightJul 11, 2005
  62. Linus TorvaldsJul 8, 2005
  63. Petr BaudisJul 8, 2005
  64. Daniel BarkalowJul 8, 2005
  65. Chris WrightJul 7, 2005
  66. Check packs and then files.Junio C Hamano, Jul 11, 2005

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