Re: [PATCH v2] SubmittingPatches: add section about AI
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> Le 1 oct. 2025 à 19:44, brian m. carlson <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net> a écrit :
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> On 2025-10-01 at 18:59:31, Chuck Wolber wrote:
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>> AI is not going away, and we need to find a way to use it productively
>> _without_ losing our sense of self-reliance. If we fail to develop this ability
>> when AI is hardly more skilled than an above average intern, full of hubris and
>> zero real world experience, imagine how unqualified we will be when AI becomes
>> competent enough to manipulate and mislead us?
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> I think you assume LLMs can have intelligence. They are glorified
> prediction engines, effectively fancy Markov chains. In some cases,
> that can be useful and valuable and we can do interesting things with
> them, but they cannot actually have intelligence, creativity or reason.
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> And LLMs already manipulate and mislead people. They have been
> implicated in goading teenagers to suicide or leading people into
> conspiracy theories. Some LLMs espouse racist, anti-Semitic, or
> otherwise hateful views. That's a good reason to be wary of them and
> how they're incorporated to our lives, at least until such a time that
> they have appropriate safety measures and regulation in place (if that
> ever happens).
A tangent, and one I’m happy to continue but off-list (I’m happy to continue publicly, but this is not the forum): I’d encourage folks to give the LLMentalist Effect [1] a read. Regardless of where you fall on “intelligence vs stochastic parrot,” I think you’ll find some interesting conclusions.
[1]: https://softwarecrisis.dev/letters/llmentalist
Ben Knoble <ben.knoble@gmail.com>