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Re: [RFC/PATCH] SubmittingPatches: forbid use of genAI to generate changes

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Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com>
Date
Jul 8, 2025, 14:23 UTC
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On Tue, Jul 1, 2025 at 6:20 PM Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com> writes:
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> > Here we would forbid licensing any "AI content generator" output, not
> > just AI code generator output. So what we would forbid might be more
> > general than what QEMU folks forbid. For example they might still
> > accept a new logo, or even commit messages, made using an AI while we
> > wouldn't.
>
> I didn't think about the distinction you are trying to draw when I
> wrote the patch, but after thinking about it, I think it is a good
> thing to prevent us from adopting a new logo graphics somebody may
> have ownership rights without us knowing.  I would consider the
> commit log message as an integral part of any "contribution", and
> read the word "contribution" used in the [[dco]] section as such, if
> the rule covers the commit log message, that is very much
> appreciated.

I am not sure about logos, but for the commit message, it seems to me that it could have drawbacks related to translation or wordings.

For example if someone is not a good English writer, they could write a commit message in their native language and then ask an AI to translate it. Or they could write it in their bad English and then ask an AI to improve the wordings. I am not sure we want to forbid all that.

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> >> +Hence, the project asks that contributors refrain from using AI content
> >> +generators on changes that are submitted to the project.
> >
> > Here it looks like using an AI capable of generating content to just
> > check code that would be submitted could also be forbidden. I don't
> > think this is what we want, so I think we might want to reword this.
>
> Good point.  Asking agents to proofread and suggest improvements is
> like asking your friends to do so.  Care to suggest replacement to
> these two sentences (above and below)?

I could try but I would feel better if we tried to find and ask people around who have thought about this subject already.

Especially I think it's difficult to draw the line between a tool that suggests improvements and a tool that generates content. For example if I were a very bad English writer and asked an AI to suggest improvements to a commit message I wrote, then the AI might actually rewrite nearly everything and the result could be very similar to what the AI would have generated in the first place based only on the diff part of the patch.

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  1. SubmittingPatches: forbid use of genAI to generate changesJunio C Hamano, Jun 30, 2025
  2. brian m. carlsonJun 30, 2025
  3. Collin FunkJun 30, 2025
  4. Christian CouderJul 1, 2025
  5. Christian CouderJul 1, 2025
  6. Junio C HamanoJul 1, 2025
  7. Junio C HamanoJul 1, 2025
  8. Christian CouderJul 8, 2025
  9. SubmittingPatches: add section about AIChristian Couder, Oct 1, 2025
  10. Chuck WolberOct 1, 2025
  11. brian m. carlsonOct 1, 2025
  12. Ben KnobleOct 2, 2025
  13. Christian CouderOct 3, 2025
  14. Junio C HamanoOct 1, 2025
  15. Christian CouderOct 3, 2025
  16. Junio C HamanoOct 3, 2025
  17. rsbecker@nexbridge.comOct 3, 2025
  18. Christian CouderOct 8, 2025
  19. brian m. carlsonOct 1, 2025
  20. Christian CouderOct 3, 2025
  21. Elijah NewrenOct 3, 2025
  22. brian m. carlsonOct 3, 2025
  23. Junio C HamanoOct 6, 2025
  24. Elijah NewrenOct 8, 2025
  25. Junio C HamanoOct 12, 2025
  26. Christian CouderOct 8, 2025
  27. Junio C HamanoOct 13, 2025
  28. Junio C HamanoOct 23, 2025
  29. Elijah NewrenOct 8, 2025
  30. Christian CouderOct 8, 2025
  31. Michal SuchánekOct 8, 2025
  32. Christian CouderOct 8, 2025
  33. Collin FunkOct 9, 2025
  34. Christian CouderOct 8, 2025

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