From: Ben Knoble Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2025 02:30:42 GMT Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] SubmittingPatches: add section about AI Message-ID: <41F7B31F-1CED-4A74-A69C-1C3D61B10A42@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: > Le 1 oct. 2025 à 19:44, brian m. carlson a écrit : > > On 2025-10-01 at 18:59:31, Chuck Wolber wrote: > >> AI is not going away, and we need to find a way to use it productively >> _without_ losing our sense of self-reliance. If we fail to develop this ability >> when AI is hardly more skilled than an above average intern, full of hubris and >> zero real world experience, imagine how unqualified we will be when AI becomes >> competent enough to manipulate and mislead us? > > I think you assume LLMs can have intelligence. They are glorified > prediction engines, effectively fancy Markov chains. In some cases, > that can be useful and valuable and we can do interesting things with > them, but they cannot actually have intelligence, creativity or reason. > > And LLMs already manipulate and mislead people. They have been > implicated in goading teenagers to suicide or leading people into > conspiracy theories. Some LLMs espouse racist, anti-Semitic, or > otherwise hateful views. That's a good reason to be wary of them and > how they're incorporated to our lives, at least until such a time that > they have appropriate safety measures and regulation in place (if that > ever happens). A tangent, and one I’m happy to continue but off-list (I’m happy to continue publicly, but this is not the forum): I’d encourage folks to give the LLMentalist Effect [1] a read. Regardless of where you fall on “intelligence vs stochastic parrot,” I think you’ll find some interesting conclusions. [1]: https://softwarecrisis.dev/letters/llmentalist