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Re: why is git destructive by default? (i suggest it not be!)

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DJDavid Jeske <jeske@google.com>
Date
Jun 24, 2008, 08:04 UTC
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-- Jeff King wrote:
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> I think you are confusing two aspects of history.
>
> There is the commit DAG, which says "at some time T, the files were at
> some state S, and the commit message by author A was M". And those
> commits form a chain so you can see how the state of the files
> progressed. And anything that is reachable through that history will
okay.
> always be kept by git, and you can always go back to any point.

..are you saying that if I reset --hard, or delete a branch ref, or do a rebase, and then do a GC beyond the GC timeout, that git will NEVER throw away any of those DAGs? (the actual source diffs committed)

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> And the ref history is what gets garbage collected. Most people are fine
> with that, because they care about the actual commit history, and the
> reflog is just a convenient way of saying "oops, what was happening
> yesterday?" But if you really care, then by all means, set the reflog
> expiration much higher.

My (possibly flawed) understanding was that it drops any DAG sections that are not referenced by valid refs which are older than the GC timeout.

It came from wording like this in the docs:

"The optional configuration variable gc.reflogExpireUnreachable can be set to indicate how long historical reflog entries which are not part of the current branch should remain available in this repository. These types of entries are generally created as a result of using git commit --amend or git rebase and are the commits prior to the amend or rebase occurring. Since these changes are not part of the current project most users ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ will want to expire them sooner. This option defaults to 30 days."

In the above, I resolve "these changes" to "commits prior to the amend" in the previous sentence.

"git-gc tries very hard to be safe about the garbage it collects. In particular, it will keep not only objects referenced by your current set of branches and tags, but also objects referenced by the index, remote tracking branches, refs saved by git-filter-branch(1) in refs/original/, or reflogs (which may references commits in branches that were later amended or rewound)."

In the above, I resolve "keep .. only objects referenced by your current set of branches and tags [and some other stuff]" to "commmits in the DAG pointed to by refs [and other stuff]". Are you saying this GC process will never collect source diffs in the DAG?

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  76. Re* [PATCH] cmd_reset: don't trash uncommitted changes unless told toJunio C Hamano, Jun 25, 2008
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