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python 2 EOL (was: [PATCH v2 0/3] Fix broken CI on newer github-actions runner image)

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Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com>
Date
Nov 24, 2022, 12:28 UTC
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On Thu, Nov 24 2022, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
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> On Thu, 24 Nov 2022, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> [...]
> The changes look good!
>
> One alternative I considered about 8e432f13bef8 (ci: install python on
> ubuntu, 2022-11-24) was to drop testing Python v2.x (it's years past end
> of life after all, see https://endoflife.date/python).
Just 2 years? :)

We're still pinning "perl" to a supported 5.8, which is so out-of-life that I couldn't find a good reference to when exactly it went EOL. My guess based on [1] and "perldoc perlhist" is sometime around 2009-2010.

> So I agree that the best idea in this patch series is the stop-gap
> solution to install `python2` on `ubuntu-22.04`, and deal with deprecating
> Python v2.x support separately, later, or never, whichever comes first ;-)

Yes, let's address that later. We had a recent discussion relating to EOL-ing it in-tree. See the ML discussion around[2].

I would like to note that you seem to be assuming that upstream's EOL for something like this should match our EOL for supporting the software.

I think one could argue that, but that's not at all the stance we've taken in the past, as the "perl" example shows.

I've personally wanted to bump the "perl" dependency more aggressively for purely selfish reasons in the past (being able to use some newer feature), but the reality is that people "back-port" newer git versions onto various older platforms.

But in terms of the cost-benefit of the disruption that would incur I also don't think it's worth it (although a bit past 5.8 is probably justifiable at this point).

Someone using "perl" on an older system for git's tests and git-svn etc. really doesn't need to worry much about the full security surface that "perl" might provide, which includes e.g. all the CPAN libraries it ships with, I expect that the same would go for "python".

The one potential security issue I can think of that we've ever had because of it is that you could trick "gitweb" and the like into ever-growing memory use if you had a perl version older than the "hash randomization" security/DoS fix.

But other than that we're not exposing perl, python etc. directly over the Internet, so I think we don't need to be too paranoid about it.

1. https://endoflife.date/perl
2. f7b5ff607fa (git-p4: improve encoding handling to support
   inconsistent encodings, 2022-04-30)
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  12. 0/3 Fix broken CI on newer github-actions runner imageJiang Xin, Nov 24, 2022
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  16. python 2 EOL (was: [PATCH v2 0/3] Fix broken CI on newer github-actions runner image)Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 24, 2022
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  18. 0/4 Fix broken CI on newer github-actions runner imageJiang Xin, Nov 24, 2022
  19. 0/4 Fix broken CI on newer github-actions runner imageJiang Xin, Nov 25, 2022
  20. 2/4 ci: remove the pipe after "p4 -V" to cache errorsJiang Xin, Nov 25, 2022
  21. Junio C HamanoNov 27, 2022
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  23. 1/4 github-actions: run gcc-8 on ubuntu-20.04 imageJiang Xin, Nov 25, 2022
  24. Junio C HamanoNov 27, 2022
  25. 3/4 ci: p4 on Linux has the same version as on macOSJiang Xin, Nov 25, 2022
  26. Junio C HamanoNov 27, 2022
  27. 4/4 ci: install python on ubuntuJiang Xin, Nov 25, 2022
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  31. 1/4 github-actions: run gcc-8 on ubuntu-20.04 imageJiang Xin, Nov 24, 2022
  32. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonNov 24, 2022
  33. 2/4 ci: show error message of "p4 -V"Jiang Xin, Nov 24, 2022
  34. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonNov 24, 2022
  35. Junio C HamanoNov 25, 2022
  36. 3/4 ci: p4 on Linux has the same version as on macOSJiang Xin, Nov 24, 2022
  37. 4/4 ci: install python on ubuntuJiang Xin, Nov 24, 2022
  38. 1/3 github-actions: run gcc-8 on ubuntu-20.04 imageJiang Xin, Nov 24, 2022
  39. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonNov 24, 2022
  40. Junio C HamanoNov 25, 2022
  41. 2/3 ci: upgrade version of p4 to 21.2Jiang Xin, Nov 24, 2022
  42. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonNov 24, 2022
  43. Jiang XinNov 24, 2022
  44. 3/3 ci: install python on ubuntuJiang Xin, Nov 24, 2022
  45. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonNov 24, 2022
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