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Re: [PATCH v3 15/15] rebase: change the default backend from "am" to "merge"

From
Emily Shaffer <emilyshaffer@google.com>
Date
Jan 15, 2020, 21:59 UTC
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<20200115215922.GI181522@google.com>
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<20200115195011.GA146834@google.com>
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 07:50:11PM +0000, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> Phillip Wood wrote:
> > On 11/01/2020 01:16, Elijah Newren wrote:
> 
> >> But the big question here, is what is correct behavior?  Should rebase
> >> call the post-commit hook, or should it skip it?  I haven't any clue
> >> what the answer to that is.
> >
> > It's creating a new commit so I lean towards thinking it should run the
> > post-commit hook. As an example I have a post-commit hook that prints a
> > warning if a commit is created on a branch that is being rewritten by one of
> > my scripts in another worktree. There are pre-commit and pre-rebase hooks to
> > try and prevent that, but the warning is there as a last resort if those
> > hooks are by-passed.
> 
> The initial design for the post-commit hook was
> 
>     commit 89e2c5f17b901edf28a8bb778ece3f6c18bbb721
>     Author: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
>     Date:   Thu Aug 18 17:20:08 2005 -0700
> 
>     Add commit hook and make the verification customizable.
> 
>     There are three hooks:
> 
>         - 'pre-commit' is given an opportunity to inspect what is
>           being committed, before we invoke the EDITOR for the
>           commit message;
> 
>         - 'commit-msg' is invoked on the commit log message after
>           the user prepares it;
> 
>         - 'post-commit' is run after a successful commit is made.
> 
>     The first two can interfere to stop the commit.  The last one is
>     for after-the-fact notification.
> 
> The initial implementation was only in "git commit" and didn't affect
> other commands, but that's an artifact of implementation, not
> intention.  The intention is more murky: certainly "creating a new
> commit" is not the event we want to notify about (for example, "git
> commit-tree" should not invoke the hook), but if I were designing it
> today then all operations that create a new commit and update the
> current branch with it might qualify.
> 
> Even that definition is a bit fuzzy: when I run "git rebase <upstream>
> <branch>", am I updating <branch> or the current branch?  Are
> cherry-picks that carry over changes that were committed previously
> new commits?
> 
> Worse, we have the body of existing post-commit hooks to contend with,
> and each one may have made different assumptions about the semantics.
> We do not have the luxury of designing the hook without regard to that
> body of existing hooks today.

This seems like the most important point to me. I took a very cursory peek at some search results on Github (https://github.com/search?l=&q=filename%3A%2Apost-commit%2A&type=Code) and I see mostly shims - make sure certain files were included in the commit, bring a worktree up to date, stage stuff that wasn't committed - but again, that's a very brief glance at over 19000 probable post-commit hooks. Of course it's not possible for us to examine all of them, but having these 19k scripts being run lots of times when they didn't used to during an operation as common as rebase seems a little scary.

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> The hook that jiri installs is very simple.  It wants to check when a
> user has (interactively) made a commit on a detached HEAD, to let them
> know that they might want to use "git checkout -b" afterward.  With
> this particular hook, the behavior is better when git rebase does not
> invoke the hook, since in the context of a rebase, the user has no
> need to use "git checkout -b" afterward.  This is a regression, and I
> think we need to take that seriously.
> 
> It doesn't seem like jiri is doing anything weird here, so there's a
> reasonably high probability that other hooks would be affected in the
> same way.  How can we help authors of such hooks to handle this
> change?

This part I do disagree with. Git warns (advice-optional) when I enter detached HEAD state. When I leave my detached HEAD with some orphaned commits within (via checkout), I get a warning unconditionally, and an advice-optional tip to use 'git branch <name> <commit-id>'. The Jiri hook is warning that these commits I'm making could be lost, but in fact Git itself is telling me that (and how to save them) at the first moment when they are actually in danger. So I think this particular example is not a good one.

I'm more worried about ones like this, although in the rebase case it may well be a no-op as I can't start a rebase with a dirty index: https://github.com/alphagov/digitalmarketplace-runner/blob/f8524d9ee7465caef0571d8beb8dff4b25d10fe7/hooks/post-commit

Perhaps a good question is "what could be very catastrophic if it happened during the middle of a rebase, but not such a bad thing if it happened when I run 'git commit'?"

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> I don't think that starting to invoke the 'post-commit' hook even more
> without going through that thought process is an acceptable fix.
> Since the "right" semantics aren't obvious here, the first step is
> probably to collect some typical examples of post-commit hooks, like
> the example from the message I'm replying to (thank you!).  Ideas for
> where we can find more?

That Github search query I posted above is a pretty big haystack. I suppose plenty of folks who contribute to Git have a userbase and might be familiar with some workflows in use there, right?

 - Emily
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  1. 00/15 rebase: make the default backend configurableElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 20, 2019
  2. 02/15 t3406: simplify an already simple testElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 20, 2019
  3. 03/15 rebase, sequencer: remove the broken GIT_QUIET handlingElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 20, 2019
  4. Junio C HamanoDec 20, 2019
  5. 01/15 rebase: extend the options for handling of empty commitsElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 20, 2019
  6. Junio C HamanoDec 20, 2019
  7. Elijah NewrenDec 21, 2019
  8. Elijah NewrenDec 21, 2019
  9. Junio C HamanoDec 21, 2019
  10. 06/15 t3432: make these tests work with either am or merge backendsElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 20, 2019
  11. Denton LiuDec 22, 2019
  12. Elijah NewrenDec 23, 2019
  13. 04/15 rebase: make sure to pass along the quiet flag to the sequencerElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 20, 2019
  14. 09/15 rebase: move incompatibility checks between backend options a bit earlierElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 20, 2019
  15. 07/15 rebase: allow more types of rebases to fast-forwardElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 20, 2019
  16. 08/15 git-rebase.txt: add more details about behavioral differences of backendsElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 20, 2019
  17. 13/15 rebase tests: repeat some tests using the merge backend instead of amElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 20, 2019
  18. 12/15 rebase tests: mark tests specific to the am-backend with --amElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 20, 2019
  19. 14/15 rebase: make the backend configurable via config settingElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 20, 2019
  20. 11/15 contrib: change the prompt for am-based rebasesElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 20, 2019
  21. SZEDER GáborDec 20, 2019
  22. Elijah NewrenDec 21, 2019
  23. 05/15 rebase: fix handling of restrict_revisionElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 20, 2019
  24. Junio C HamanoDec 20, 2019
  25. 15/15 rebase: change the default backend from "am" to "merge"Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 20, 2019
  26. 10/15 rebase: add an --am optionElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 20, 2019
  27. Alban GruinDec 20, 2019
  28. Elijah NewrenDec 20, 2019
  29. 00/15 rebase: make the default backend configurableElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 23, 2019
  30. 02/15 t3406: simplify an already simple testElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 23, 2019
  31. 01/15 rebase: extend the options for handling of empty commitsElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 23, 2019
  32. 04/15 rebase: make sure to pass along the quiet flag to the sequencerElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 23, 2019
  33. 03/15 rebase, sequencer: remove the broken GIT_QUIET handlingElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 23, 2019
  34. 08/15 git-rebase.txt: add more details about behavioral differences of backendsElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 23, 2019
  35. 05/15 rebase: fix handling of restrict_revisionElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 23, 2019
  36. 07/15 rebase: allow more types of rebases to fast-forwardElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 23, 2019
  37. 06/15 t3432: make these tests work with either am or merge backendsElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 23, 2019
  38. 14/15 rebase: make the backend configurable via config settingElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 23, 2019
  39. 13/15 rebase tests: repeat some tests using the merge backend instead of amElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 23, 2019
  40. 12/15 rebase tests: mark tests specific to the am-backend with --amElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 23, 2019
  41. 15/15 rebase: change the default backend from "am" to "merge"Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 23, 2019
  42. 09/15 rebase: move incompatibility checks between backend options a bit earlierElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 23, 2019
  43. 10/15 rebase: add an --am optionElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 23, 2019
  44. 11/15 contrib: change the prompt for interactive-based rebasesElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 23, 2019
  45. Denton LiuDec 23, 2019
  46. 00/15 rebase: make the default backend configurableElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 24, 2019
  47. 02/15 t3406: simplify an already simple testElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 24, 2019
  48. 03/15 rebase, sequencer: remove the broken GIT_QUIET handlingElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 24, 2019
  49. 01/15 rebase: extend the options for handling of empty commitsElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 24, 2019
  50. Phillip WoodJan 7, 2020
  51. Elijah NewrenJan 7, 2020
  52. Phillip WoodJan 8, 2020
  53. Johannes SchindelinJan 9, 2020
  54. 04/15 rebase: make sure to pass along the quiet flag to the sequencerElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 24, 2019
  55. 05/15 rebase: fix handling of restrict_revisionElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 24, 2019
  56. 07/15 rebase: allow more types of rebases to fast-forwardElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 24, 2019
  57. 06/15 t3432: make these tests work with either am or merge backendsElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 24, 2019
  58. 08/15 git-rebase.txt: add more details about behavioral differences of backendsElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 24, 2019
  59. 11/15 git-prompt: change the prompt for interactive-based rebasesElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 24, 2019
  60. 12/15 rebase tests: mark tests specific to the am-backend with --amElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 24, 2019
  61. 10/15 rebase: add an --am optionElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 24, 2019
  62. Phillip WoodJan 7, 2020
  63. Elijah NewrenJan 7, 2020
  64. Junio C HamanoJan 7, 2020
  65. Phillip WoodJan 8, 2020
  66. Junio C HamanoJan 8, 2020
  67. Phillip WoodJan 8, 2020
  68. 14/15 rebase: make the backend configurable via config settingElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 24, 2019
  69. 09/15 rebase: move incompatibility checks between backend options a bit earlierElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 24, 2019
  70. 15/15 rebase: change the default backend from "am" to "merge"Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 24, 2019
  71. Jonathan NiederJan 10, 2020
  72. Elijah NewrenJan 11, 2020
  73. Phillip WoodJan 11, 2020
  74. Johannes SchindelinJan 12, 2020
  75. Elijah NewrenJan 16, 2020
  76. Jonathan NiederJan 16, 2020
  77. Jonathan NiederJan 16, 2020
  78. Elijah NewrenJan 16, 2020
  79. Jonathan NiederJan 16, 2020
  80. Elijah NewrenJan 16, 2020
  81. Jonathan NiederJan 16, 2020
  82. Elijah NewrenJan 16, 2020
  83. Junio C HamanoJan 16, 2020
  84. Elijah NewrenJan 17, 2020
  85. Elijah NewrenJan 16, 2020
  86. Junio C HamanoJan 16, 2020
  87. Johannes SchindelinJan 16, 2020
  88. Junio C HamanoJan 12, 2020
  89. Jonathan NiederJan 15, 2020
  90. Emily ShafferJan 15, 2020
  91. 13/15 rebase tests: repeat some tests using the merge backend instead of amElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Dec 24, 2019
  92. 00/19 rebase: make the default backend configurableElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Jan 16, 2020
  93. 01/19 git-rebase.txt: update description of --allow-empty-messageElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Jan 16, 2020
  94. Phillip WoodFeb 9, 2020
  95. Elijah NewrenFeb 13, 2020
  96. 02/19 t3404: directly test the behavior of interestElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Jan 16, 2020
  97. 03/19 rebase (interactive-backend): make --keep-empty the defaultElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Jan 16, 2020
  98. Phillip WoodFeb 9, 2020
  99. Elijah NewrenFeb 13, 2020
  100. 04/19 rebase (interactive-backend): fix handling of commits that become emptyElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Jan 16, 2020
  101. Phillip WoodFeb 10, 2020
  102. Elijah NewrenFeb 13, 2020
  103. Phillip WoodFeb 16, 2020
  104. 11/19 git-rebase.txt: add more details about behavioral differences of backendsElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Jan 16, 2020
  105. 12/19 rebase: move incompatibility checks between backend options a bit earlierElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Jan 16, 2020
  106. 14/19 git-prompt: change the prompt for interactive-based rebasesElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Jan 16, 2020
  107. 07/19 rebase: make sure to pass along the quiet flag to the sequencerElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Jan 16, 2020
  108. 06/19 rebase, sequencer: remove the broken GIT_QUIET handlingElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Jan 16, 2020
  109. 10/19 rebase: allow more types of rebases to fast-forwardElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Jan 16, 2020
  110. 09/19 t3432: make these tests work with either am or merge backendsElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Jan 16, 2020
  111. 05/19 t3406: simplify an already simple testElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Jan 16, 2020
  112. 08/19 rebase: fix handling of restrict_revisionElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Jan 16, 2020
  113. 19/19 rebase: change the default backend from "am" to "merge"Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Jan 16, 2020
  114. 18/19 rebase: make the backend configurable via config settingElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Jan 16, 2020
  115. 16/19 rebase tests: mark tests specific to the am-backend with --amElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Jan 16, 2020
  116. 15/19 rebase: drop '-i' from the reflog for interactive-based rebasesElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Jan 16, 2020
  117. 17/19 rebase tests: repeat some tests using the merge backend instead of amElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Jan 16, 2020
  118. 13/19 rebase: add an --am optionElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Jan 16, 2020
  119. Phillip WoodJan 17, 2020
  120. Junio C HamanoFeb 5, 2020
  121. Elijah NewrenFeb 5, 2020
  122. 00/20 rebase: make the default backend configurable and change the defaultElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Feb 15, 2020
  123. 01/20 git-rebase.txt: update description of --allow-empty-messageElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Feb 15, 2020
  124. 02/20 t3404: directly test the behavior of interestElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Feb 15, 2020
  125. 05/20 t3406: simplify an already simple testElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Feb 15, 2020
  126. 06/20 rebase, sequencer: remove the broken GIT_QUIET handlingElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Feb 15, 2020
  127. 09/20 t3432: make these tests work with either am or merge backendsElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Feb 15, 2020
  128. 03/20 rebase (interactive-backend): make --keep-empty the defaultElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Feb 15, 2020
  129. 08/20 rebase: fix handling of restrict_revisionElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Feb 15, 2020
  130. 04/20 rebase (interactive-backend): fix handling of commits that become emptyElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Feb 15, 2020
  131. 12/20 rebase: move incompatibility checks between backend options a bit earlierElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Feb 15, 2020
  132. 10/20 rebase: allow more types of rebases to fast-forwardElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Feb 15, 2020
  133. 19/20 rebase: change the default backend from "am" to "merge"Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Feb 15, 2020
  134. 18/20 rebase: make the backend configurable via config settingElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Feb 15, 2020
  135. 17/20 rebase tests: repeat some tests using the merge backend instead of amElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Feb 15, 2020
  136. 16/20 rebase tests: mark tests specific to the am-backend with --amElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Feb 15, 2020
  137. 20/20 rebase: rename the two primary rebase backendsElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Feb 15, 2020
  138. Emily ShafferMar 12, 2020
  139. Elijah NewrenMar 12, 2020
  140. Jonathan NiederMar 12, 2020
  141. Elijah NewrenMar 12, 2020
  142. Jonathan NiederMar 12, 2020
  143. Elijah NewrenMar 12, 2020
  144. Jonathan NiederMar 17, 2020
  145. Elijah NewrenMar 17, 2020
  146. Junio C HamanoMar 12, 2020
  147. Junio C HamanoMar 12, 2020
  148. Jonathan NiederMar 12, 2020
  149. Junio C HamanoMar 12, 2020
  150. Elijah NewrenMar 12, 2020
  151. Jeff KingMar 12, 2020
  152. Junio C HamanoMar 12, 2020
  153. Elijah NewrenMar 12, 2020
  154. Junio C HamanoMar 13, 2020
  155. Jonathan NiederMar 12, 2020
  156. 07/20 rebase: make sure to pass along the quiet flag to the sequencerElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Feb 15, 2020
  157. 15/20 rebase: drop '-i' from the reflog for interactive-based rebasesElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Feb 15, 2020
  158. 14/20 git-prompt: change the prompt for interactive-based rebasesElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Feb 15, 2020
  159. 13/20 rebase: add an --am optionElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Feb 15, 2020
  160. 11/20 git-rebase.txt: add more details about behavioral differences of backendsElijah Newren via GitGitGadget, Feb 15, 2020
  161. Phillip WoodFeb 16, 2020

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