Re: [RFE] Demilitarize Documentation (was RE: Delivery Status Notification (Failure))

From: Michal Suchánek <msuchanek@suse.de>
Date: Feb 19, 2019, 16:28 UTC
Message-ID: <20190219172813.3f318240@kitsune.suse.cz>
In-Reply-To: <nycvar.QRO.7.76.6.1902191540220.41@tvgsbejvaqbjf.bet>

On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 15:47:08 +0100 (STD) Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:

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> Hi Michal,
> 
> On Tue, 19 Feb 2019, Michal Suchánek wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 09:02:43 +0100
> > Senol Yazici <sypsilon@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >   
> > > Suggestion for substitution: Assistant or assistant integrator.  
> > 
> > So now the terms sound a lot like a corporate lingo. Is it now turn for
> > enthusiasts and entrepreneurs to feel excluded because git is meant
> > only for corporations, and for people who had bad experience as
> > corporate employees to feel offended?  
> 
> The concern that was raised is a valid one. Words can do real harm, and we
> should try not to keep perpetrating that same harm. We still have language
> in our very README that puts off some people, for no good reason
> whatsoever.
> 
> I find your comments quite offensive, as they seem to all try to downplay
> the importance of words, when all you could say is that *you* have the
> insane luck of being in a time and place where *you personally* are not
> affected. But to belittle others who do not share that privilege is quite
> out of line.

Then please stick to your advice and do not belittle *my* concerns either.

> 
> So let's give voice to those who have kind words, and rest our combative
> language.

Please do, thank you very much.

> 
> In other words, I welcome Senol's contribution, and hope that it will
> cumulate in a Pull Request that fixes the website.

And so long as it is a fix that makes the documentation clear rather than trading one potentially offensive term for another also potentially offensive and even less descriptive I welcome it as well.

Thanks

Michal