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Re: [PATCH 09/16] documentation: add documentation for the bitmap format

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Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Date
Jun 26, 2013, 05:11 UTC
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On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 09:33:11PM +0200, Vicent Martí wrote:
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> > One way we side-stepped the size inflation problem in JGit was to only
> > use the bitmap index information when sending data on the wire to a
> > client. Here delta reuse plays a significant factor in building the
> > pack, and we don't have to be as accurate on matching deltas. During
> > the equivalent of `git repack` bitmaps are not used, allowing the
> > traditional graph enumeration algorithm to generate path hash
> > information.
> 
> OH BOY HERE WE GO. This is worth its own thread, lots to discuss here.
> I think peff will have a patchset regarding this to upstream soon,
> we'll get back to it later.

We do the same thing (only use bitmaps during on-the-wire fetches). But there a few problems with assuming delta reuse.

For us (GitHub), the foremost one is that we pack many "forks" of a repository together into a single packfile. That means when you clone torvalds/linux, an object you want may be stored in the on-disk pack with a delta against an object that you are not going to get. So we have to throw out that delta and find a new one.

I'm dealing with that by adding an option to respect "islands" during packing, where an island is a set of common objects (we split it by fork, since we expect those objects to be fetched together, but you could use other criteria). The rule is that an object cannot delta against another object that is not in all of its islands. So everybody can delta against shared history, but objects in your fork can only delta against other objects in the fork. You are guaranteed to be able to reuse such deltas during a full clone of a fork, and the on-disk pack size does not suffer all that much (because there is usually a good alternate delta base within your reachable history).

So with that series, we can get good reuse for clones. But there are still two cases worth considering:

  1. When you fetch a subset of the commits, git marks only the edges as
     preferred bases, and does not walk the full object graph down to
     the roots. So any object you want that is delta'd against something
     older will not get reused. If you have reachability bitmaps, I
     don't think there is any reason that we cannot use the entire
     object graph (starting at the "have" tips, of course) as preferred
     bases.
  2. The server is not necessarily fully packed. In an active repo, you
     may have a large "base" pack with bitmaps, with several recently
     pushed packs on top. You still need to delta the recently pushed
     objects against the base objects.

I don't have measurements on how much the deltas suffer in those two cases. I know they suffered quite badly for clones without the name hashes in our alternates repos, but that part should go away with my patch series.

-Peff
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Message 37 of 64 in “Speed up Counting Objects with bitmap data”
  1. 00/16 Speed up Counting Objects with bitmap dataVicent Marti, Jun 24, 2013
  2. 01/16 list-objects: mark tree as unparsed when we free its bufferVicent Marti, Jun 24, 2013
  3. 02/16 sha1_file: refactor into `find_pack_object_pos`Vicent Marti, Jun 24, 2013
  4. Thomas RastJun 25, 2013
  5. 03/16 pack-objects: use a faster hash tableVicent Marti, Jun 24, 2013
  6. Thomas RastJun 25, 2013
  7. Jeff KingJun 26, 2013
  8. Jeff KingJun 26, 2013
  9. Ramkumar RamachandraJun 25, 2013
  10. Junio C HamanoJun 25, 2013
  11. Vicent MartíJun 25, 2013
  12. 04/16 pack-objects: make `pack_name_hash` globalVicent Marti, Jun 24, 2013
  13. 05/16 revision: allow setting custom limiter functionVicent Marti, Jun 24, 2013
  14. 06/16 sha1_file: export `git_open_noatime`Vicent Marti, Jun 24, 2013
  15. 07/16 compat: add endinanness helpersVicent Marti, Jun 24, 2013
  16. Peter KreftingJun 25, 2013
  17. Vicent MartíJun 25, 2013
  18. Peter KreftingJun 27, 2013
  19. 08/16 ewah: compressed bitmap implementationVicent Marti, Jun 24, 2013
  20. Junio C HamanoJun 25, 2013
  21. Junio C HamanoJun 25, 2013
  22. Thomas RastJun 25, 2013
  23. 09/16 documentation: add documentation for the bitmap formatVicent Marti, Jun 24, 2013
  24. Shawn PearceJun 25, 2013
  25. Vicent MartíJun 25, 2013
  26. Junio C HamanoJun 25, 2013
  27. Vicent MartíJun 25, 2013
  28. Shawn PearceJun 27, 2013
  29. Vicent MartíJun 27, 2013
  30. Jeff KingJun 27, 2013
  31. Shawn PearceJun 27, 2013
  32. Jeff KingJun 27, 2013
  33. Colby RangerJul 1, 2013
  34. Shawn PearceJul 1, 2013
  35. Jeff KingJul 7, 2013
  36. Shawn PearceJul 7, 2013
  37. Jeff KingJun 26, 2013
  38. Colby RangerJun 26, 2013
  39. Colby RangerJun 26, 2013
  40. Colby RangerJun 27, 2013
  41. Shawn PearceJun 27, 2013
  42. Shawn PearceJun 27, 2013
  43. Thomas RastJun 25, 2013
  44. Vicent MartíJun 25, 2013
  45. Thomas RastJun 26, 2013
  46. Thomas RastJun 26, 2013
  47. 10/16 pack-objects: use bitmaps when packing objectsVicent Marti, Jun 24, 2013
  48. Ramkumar RamachandraJun 25, 2013
  49. Thomas RastJun 25, 2013
  50. Junio C HamanoJun 25, 2013
  51. Vicent MartíJun 25, 2013
  52. 11/16 rev-list: add bitmap mode to speed up listsVicent Marti, Jun 24, 2013
  53. Thomas RastJun 25, 2013
  54. Vicent MartíJun 26, 2013
  55. Thomas RastJun 26, 2013
  56. Jeff KingJun 26, 2013
  57. 12/16 pack-objects: implement bitmap writingVicent Marti, Jun 24, 2013
  58. 13/16 repack: consider bitmaps when performing repacksVicent Marti, Jun 24, 2013
  59. Junio C HamanoJun 25, 2013
  60. Vicent MartíJun 25, 2013
  61. 14/16 sha1_file: implement `nth_packed_object_info`Vicent Marti, Jun 24, 2013
  62. 15/16 write-bitmap: implement new git command to write bitmapsVicent Marti, Jun 24, 2013
  63. 16/16 rev-list: Optimize --count using bitmaps tooVicent Marti, Jun 24, 2013
  64. Thomas RastJun 25, 2013

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