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Re: libgit2 - a true git library

From
Pierre Habouzit <madcoder@debian.org>
Date
Nov 2, 2008, 09:25 UTC
Message-ID
<20081102092555.GC4066@artemis>
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<20081102015611.GH15463@spearce.org>
On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 01:56:11AM +0000, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:
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> Pierre Habouzit <madcoder@debian.org> wrote:
> > For types that _will_ be in the tight loops, we must make the types
> > explicit or it'll bite us hard performance-wise. I'm thinking what is
> > "struct object" or "struct commit" in git.git. It's likely that we will
> > loose a *lot* of those types are opaque.
> 
> Yes, but I'm arguing they should be opaque to the application, and
> visible to the library.  Today the application is suffering from
> massive fork+exec overhead.  I really don't give a damn if the
> application's compiler has to deal with a function call to read
> from a private member of an opaque type.  Its still thousands of
> CPU instructions less per operation.

The problem is not the function call, it's really cheap on modern CPUs. The problem is that across a function call the compiler cannot make some kind of optimizations and _that_ isn't cheap.

For example, pointers whose value have been loaded from the store into a register have to be loaded again. A function call trashes all the registers, etc...

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> Come back to me a year after libgit2 has been widely deployed on
> Linux distros and we have multiple applications linking to it.
> Lets talk then about the harmful performance problems caused by
> making these types opaque to the application.  About that time
> we'll also be talking about how great pack v4 is and why its a good
> thing those types were opaque, as we didn't have to break the ABI
> to introduce it.

Well I fear it'll be more than a few percent harm, and I can already see Linus argue against the switch to libgit2 for git-core because it lost 2% performances ;P

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·O·  Pierre Habouzit
··O                                                madcoder@debian.org
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  2. Pieter de BieOct 31, 2008
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  5. Shawn O. PearceOct 31, 2008
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  7. Shawn O. PearceOct 31, 2008
  8. Pierre HabouzitOct 31, 2008
  9. Junio C HamanoOct 31, 2008
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  11. Pierre HabouzitNov 1, 2008
  12. Andreas EricssonNov 1, 2008
  13. Pierre HabouzitNov 1, 2008
  14. Shawn O. PearceNov 1, 2008
  15. Andreas EricssonNov 1, 2008
  16. Shawn O. PearceNov 2, 2008
  17. Andreas EricssonNov 3, 2008
  18. Shawn O. PearceNov 2, 2008
  19. Pierre HabouzitNov 2, 2008
  20. Nicolas PitreOct 31, 2008
  21. david@lang.hmOct 31, 2008
  22. Nicolas PitreOct 31, 2008
  23. Shawn O. PearceOct 31, 2008
  24. Shawn O. PearceOct 31, 2008
  25. Pierre HabouzitOct 31, 2008
  26. Pierre HabouzitOct 31, 2008
  27. Nicolas PitreOct 31, 2008
  28. Andreas EricssonNov 1, 2008
  29. Pieter de BieOct 31, 2008
  30. Shawn O. PearceOct 31, 2008
  31. Junio C HamanoOct 31, 2008
  32. Pierre HabouzitNov 1, 2008
  33. Shawn O. PearceNov 1, 2008
  34. Pierre HabouzitNov 1, 2008
  35. Shawn O. PearceNov 1, 2008
  36. Nicolas PitreNov 1, 2008
  37. Shawn O. PearceNov 1, 2008
  38. Nicolas PitreNov 1, 2008
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  40. Johannes SchindelinNov 1, 2008
  41. Pierre HabouzitNov 1, 2008
  42. Nicolas PitreNov 1, 2008
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  44. Johannes SchindelinNov 1, 2008
  45. Junio C HamanoOct 31, 2008
  46. Pierre HabouzitOct 31, 2008
  47. Shawn O. PearceOct 31, 2008
  48. Jakub NarebskiOct 31, 2008
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  50. Shawn O. PearceNov 1, 2008
  51. david@lang.hmNov 1, 2008
  52. Pierre HabouzitNov 1, 2008
  53. Nicolas PitreNov 1, 2008
  54. Pierre HabouzitNov 1, 2008
  55. Nicolas PitreNov 1, 2008
  56. Shawn O. PearceNov 1, 2008
  57. Nicolas PitreNov 1, 2008
  58. Shawn O. PearceNov 1, 2008
  59. Scott ChaconNov 2, 2008
  60. Scott ChaconNov 2, 2008
  61. Shawn O. PearceNov 2, 2008
  62. David BrownNov 2, 2008
  63. Shawn O. PearceNov 3, 2008
  64. Pierre HabouzitNov 1, 2008
  65. david@lang.hmNov 1, 2008
  66. Brian GernhardtOct 31, 2008
  67. Andreas EricssonOct 31, 2008
  68. Shawn O. PearceOct 31, 2008
  69. Junio C HamanoOct 31, 2008
  70. Andreas EricssonNov 1, 2008
  71. Johannes SchindelinOct 31, 2008
  72. Bruno SantosOct 31, 2008
  73. Shawn O. PearceOct 31, 2008
  74. Andreas EricssonNov 1, 2008
  75. Shawn O. PearceNov 1, 2008
  76. Johannes SchindelinNov 2, 2008
  77. Pierre HabouzitNov 2, 2008
  78. Andreas EricssonNov 3, 2008
  79. Steve FrécinauxNov 8, 2008
  80. Andreas EricssonNov 8, 2008
  81. Pierre HabouzitNov 8, 2008
  82. Andreas EricssonNov 9, 2008
  83. Shawn O. PearceNov 9, 2008

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