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Re: [PATCH] user-manual: mention git gui citool (commit, amend)

From
Shawn O. Pearce <spearce@spearce.org>
Date
Aug 4, 2007, 06:20 UTC
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<20070804062010.GQ20052@spearce.org>
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<20070803125846.GC28323@fieldses.org>
"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org> wrote:
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> On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 11:04:59PM -0400, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:
> > Online help?  In git-gui?  :-)
> > 
> > We don't have an online help system yet.
> 
> Fair enough.
> 
> Though I'd like to keep the main body of the manual focused on the major
> command line tools, I'd have no objection to a separate chapter (or
> appendix?) devoted to git-gui; then you could point directly at that.
> Would that make sense?

Yea, that makes a lot of sense. git-gui isn't a full replacement for the command line anyway, so I would never suggest a wholesale rewrite of the user manual to slant the entire thing towards git-gui. Doing so would only point out the many shortcomings in git-gui. :)

I haven't explored any in-Tk rendering options yet, been too busy with other projects. Ideally I'd like to just render the asciidoc markup directly, but I don't think anyone has done an asciidoc viewer for Tk. I can't imagine it would be that difficult to get some sort of parser working though...

But at this point in git (and git-gui's) life I think it would be very worthwhile to devote an entire (new) chapter to git-gui, maybe as part of git 1.5.4/git-gui 0.9.0. I think we're far too late in the 1.5.3 cycle to do it now. I personally won't have the time to even try to rough draft something anytime soon, let alone let others copy-edit me before Juino releases 1.5.3. :)

Being bundled with core git has brought git-gui a sizeable and growing userbase, and more and more users are discovering it each day. We're now seeing it be translated into many different languages, and it is a somewhat core part of the MSYS port as many Windows users prefer to click in GUIs over type in cmd.exe terminal windows (can't say I blame them, cmd.exe is aweful!).

In other words I think git-gui should get roughly as much attention from the user manual as git-add/rm/mv/commit/checkout/branch get, as it offers the same feature set. But it shouldn't distract from the command line part of the manual.

Maybe we should write parts of the manual in a "choose your own adventure style" and use different chapters for different paths. I think users can easily decide between the command line "i like to type" vs. the gui "i like to click" paths and focus their attention to the material they are most interested in. :-)

-- 
Shawn.
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  1. user-manual: mention git gui citool (commit, amend)Steffen Prohaska, Jul 30, 2007
  2. Shawn O. PearceJul 31, 2007
  3. J. Bruce FieldsAug 2, 2007
  4. Steffen ProhaskaAug 2, 2007
  5. J. Bruce FieldsAug 2, 2007
  6. Steffen ProhaskaAug 3, 2007
  7. J. Bruce FieldsAug 3, 2007
  8. user-manual: mention git gui citool (commit, amend)Steffen Prohaska, Aug 5, 2007
  9. Johannes SchindelinAug 5, 2007
  10. Steffen ProhaskaAug 5, 2007
  11. Johannes SchindelinAug 5, 2007
  12. David KastrupAug 5, 2007
  13. Steffen ProhaskaAug 5, 2007
  14. Johannes SchindelinAug 6, 2007
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  17. Johannes SchindelinAug 6, 2007
  18. J. Bruce FieldsAug 5, 2007
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  20. Johannes SchindelinAug 6, 2007
  21. J. Bruce FieldsAug 6, 2007
  22. Robin RosenbergAug 6, 2007
  23. J. Bruce FieldsAug 6, 2007
  24. Shawn O. PearceAug 3, 2007
  25. J. Bruce FieldsAug 3, 2007
  26. Shawn O. PearceAug 4, 2007
  27. Steffen ProhaskaAug 5, 2007
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  29. Shawn O. PearceAug 3, 2007
  30. J. Bruce FieldsAug 3, 2007
  31. Shawn O. PearceAug 4, 2007
  32. David KastrupAug 4, 2007
  33. J. Bruce FieldsAug 4, 2007
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