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Re: git-rev-list in local commit order

From
TGThomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Date
May 15, 2005, 21:13 UTC
Message-ID
<1116191636.11872.195.camel@tglx>
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<1102.10.10.10.24.1116189916.squirrel@linux1>
On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 16:45 -0400, Sean wrote:
> You can continue the personal attacks or you can simply explain to the
> list what you are trying to accomplish and why it is important and why any
> other proposal besides yours isn't worthy.

I did never say, that my proposal is the world formula, but I have more than once explained, why time is the worst source of information.

You keep beating on time as a reliable source of information and tell me that most people are completely happy with it. You must have access to a quite good opinion survey.

Time of files or time in commit blobs is not a reliable information to
keep track of
 - workflows
 - history
Thats all I'm talking about and it is the concern of others too.

In "git" repositories the only reliable source of information is the parent child relationship. This information is only partially reliable due to the head forward scenario. I think we agreed on this, right ? You have no other reliable source of information due to the fact that committer names are not unique.

> I disagree that they're inherently error prone, 
> steps can be taken to make them as secure as you desire.
You continue to propose stuff which is not viable. Can you enforce 
- NTP syncronisation
- the correct usage of rsync options 
- timestamp aware backups 
No, you can't.

Why did the mail people resort to "In-Reply-To", "Message-ID" and "References" ? Because time turned out to be an inreliable source of information. Please read the related discussions before you argue that time based solutions are sufficient.

Time is illusion. 
tglx
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  1. SeanMay 14, 2005
  2. Thomas GleixnerMay 15, 2005
  3. SeanMay 15, 2005
  4. Thomas GleixnerMay 15, 2005
  5. SeanMay 15, 2005
  6. Thomas GleixnerMay 15, 2005
  7. SeanMay 15, 2005
  8. Thomas GleixnerMay 15, 2005
  9. SeanMay 15, 2005
  10. Thomas GleixnerMay 15, 2005
  11. SeanMay 16, 2005
  12. Linus TorvaldsMay 16, 2005
  13. Thomas GleixnerMay 17, 2005
  14. Linus TorvaldsMay 17, 2005
  15. Thomas GleixnerMay 17, 2005
  16. Linus TorvaldsMay 17, 2005
  17. Jon SeymourMay 18, 2005

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