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"gmane:" search undocumented on lore.kernel.org/git

Subject: "gmane:" search undocumented on lore.kernel.org/git

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5 messages between Dec 30, 2019 and Dec 30, 2019.

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Philippe Blain· Dec 30, 2019, 23:06 UTC · lore
Hello all,
I just noticed that the help page on lore.kernel.org/git does not mention the possibility of searching for messages using Gmane id’s, as the public-inbox.org/git help page does. 
The search works though, it’s just undocumented, so I thought I’d share; I don’t know how much control we have on the lore.kernel.org public-inbox installation. 

Cheers, Philippe.

Eric Wong· Dec 30, 2019, 23:13 UTC · re: Philippe Blain · lore

Re: "gmane:" search undocumented on lore.kernel.org/git

Philippe Blain <levraiphilippeblain@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hello all,
> 
> I just noticed that the help page on lore.kernel.org/git does not mention the possibility of searching for messages using Gmane id’s, as the public-inbox.org/git help page does. 
> 
> The search works though, it’s just undocumented, so I thought I’d share; I don’t know how much control we have on the lore.kernel.org public-inbox installation. 
+Cc Konstantin who runs lore.

Unless you're getting load-balanced to differently configured instances, I think it's luck that the "gmane:" queries you tried work.

gmane:  doesn't seem configured on lore at all.  Compare:
	https://lore.kernel.org/git/?q=gmane:1
	https://public-inbox.org/git/?q=gmane:1
Konstantin Ryabitsev· Dec 30, 2019, 23:16 UTC · re: Eric Wong · lore

Re: "gmane:" search undocumented on lore.kernel.org/git

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 11:13:50PM +0000, Eric Wong wrote:
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> Philippe Blain <levraiphilippeblain@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > I just noticed that the help page on lore.kernel.org/git does not mention the possibility of searching for messages using Gmane id’s, as the public-inbox.org/git help page does. 
> > 
> > The search works though, it’s just undocumented, so I thought I’d share; I don’t know how much control we have on the lore.kernel.org public-inbox installation. 
> 
> +Cc Konstantin who runs lore.
> 
> Unless you're getting load-balanced to differently configured
> instances, I think it's luck that the "gmane:" queries you tried
> work.
> 
> gmane:  doesn't seem configured on lore at all.  Compare:
> 
> 	https://lore.kernel.org/git/?q=gmane:1
> 	https://public-inbox.org/git/?q=gmane:1

I haven't configured them because I don't understand what benefit they serve. If someone can explain their benefit, I can consider adding this to the roadmap.

-K
Jonathan Nieder· Dec 30, 2019, 23:25 UTC · re: Konstantin Ryabitsev · lore

Re: "gmane:" search undocumented on lore.kernel.org/git

Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 11:13:50PM +0000, Eric Wong wrote:
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>> gmane:  doesn't seem configured on lore at all.  Compare:
>>
>> 	https://lore.kernel.org/git/?q=gmane:1
>> 	https://public-inbox.org/git/?q=gmane:1
>
> I haven't configured them because I don't understand what benefit they
> serve. If someone can explain their benefit, I can consider adding this
> to the roadmap.

They allow finding the messages referred to by historic gmane.org links. For example,

  http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/151297/focus=151435
refers to https://public-inbox.org/git/?q=gmane:151435, and
  $gmane/127980

refers to https://public-inbox.org/git/?q=gmane:127980. There are numerous examples of both kinds of references in the mailing list archive.

Thanks, Jonathan

Junio C Hamano· Dec 30, 2019, 23:33 UTC · re: Konstantin Ryabitsev · lore

Re: "gmane:" search undocumented on lore.kernel.org/git

Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org> writes:
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>> gmane:  doesn't seem configured on lore at all.  Compare:
>> 
>> 	https://lore.kernel.org/git/?q=gmane:1
>> 	https://public-inbox.org/git/?q=gmane:1
>
> I haven't configured them because I don't understand what benefit they 
> serve. If someone can explain their benefit, I can consider adding this 
> to the roadmap.

Just that many old messages you find in the lore and public-inbox archive (and also a handful of commit log messages) use the syntax like $gmane/290280 to refer to messages on the list with gmane plus the article numbers.

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