# "gmane:" search undocumented on lore.kernel.org/git

5 messages from 2019-12-30 to 2019-12-30. Participants: Philippe Blain, Eric Wong, Konstantin Ryabitsev, Jonathan Nieder, Junio C Hamano.
Thread: https://gitlist.dev/t/52543

## Philippe Blain, 2019-12-30 23:06

Subject: "gmane:" search undocumented on lore.kernel.org/git
Message-ID: <03879A6A-2E8B-45D9-A06E-51926AC949F9@gmail.com>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/03879A6A-2E8B-45D9-A06E-51926AC949F9%40gmail.com

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Hello all,

I just noticed that the help page on lore.kernel.org/git does not mention the possibility of searching for messages using Gmane id’s, as the public-inbox.org/git help page does. 

The search works though, it’s just undocumented, so I thought I’d share; I don’t know how much control we have on the lore.kernel.org public-inbox installation. 

Cheers,
Philippe. 
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## Eric Wong, 2019-12-30 23:13

Subject: Re: "gmane:" search undocumented on lore.kernel.org/git
Message-ID: <20191230231350.GA16499@dcvr>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20191230231350.GA16499%40dcvr
In-Reply-To: <03879A6A-2E8B-45D9-A06E-51926AC949F9@gmail.com>

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Philippe Blain <levraiphilippeblain@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I just noticed that the help page on lore.kernel.org/git does not mention the possibility of searching for messages using Gmane id’s, as the public-inbox.org/git help page does. 
> 
> The search works though, it’s just undocumented, so I thought I’d share; I don’t know how much control we have on the lore.kernel.org public-inbox installation. 

+Cc Konstantin who runs lore.

Unless you're getting load-balanced to differently configured
instances, I think it's luck that the "gmane:" queries you tried
work.

gmane:  doesn't seem configured on lore at all.  Compare:

	https://lore.kernel.org/git/?q=gmane:1
	https://public-inbox.org/git/?q=gmane:1

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## Konstantin Ryabitsev, 2019-12-30 23:16

Subject: Re: "gmane:" search undocumented on lore.kernel.org/git
Message-ID: <20191230231620.lcydd5egk4ma2rph@chatter.i7.local>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20191230231620.lcydd5egk4ma2rph%40chatter.i7.local
In-Reply-To: <20191230231350.GA16499@dcvr>

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On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 11:13:50PM +0000, Eric Wong wrote:
> Philippe Blain <levraiphilippeblain@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > I just noticed that the help page on lore.kernel.org/git does not mention the possibility of searching for messages using Gmane id’s, as the public-inbox.org/git help page does. 
> > 
> > The search works though, it’s just undocumented, so I thought I’d share; I don’t know how much control we have on the lore.kernel.org public-inbox installation. 
> 
> +Cc Konstantin who runs lore.
> 
> Unless you're getting load-balanced to differently configured
> instances, I think it's luck that the "gmane:" queries you tried
> work.
> 
> gmane:  doesn't seem configured on lore at all.  Compare:
> 
> 	https://lore.kernel.org/git/?q=gmane:1
> 	https://public-inbox.org/git/?q=gmane:1

I haven't configured them because I don't understand what benefit they 
serve. If someone can explain their benefit, I can consider adding this 
to the roadmap.

-K

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## Jonathan Nieder, 2019-12-30 23:25

Subject: Re: "gmane:" search undocumented on lore.kernel.org/git
Message-ID: <20191230232554.GA13606@google.com>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20191230232554.GA13606%40google.com
In-Reply-To: <20191230231620.lcydd5egk4ma2rph@chatter.i7.local>

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Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 11:13:50PM +0000, Eric Wong wrote:

>> gmane:  doesn't seem configured on lore at all.  Compare:
>>
>> 	https://lore.kernel.org/git/?q=gmane:1
>> 	https://public-inbox.org/git/?q=gmane:1
>
> I haven't configured them because I don't understand what benefit they
> serve. If someone can explain their benefit, I can consider adding this
> to the roadmap.

They allow finding the messages referred to by historic gmane.org
links.  For example,

  http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/151297/focus=151435

refers to https://public-inbox.org/git/?q=gmane:151435, and

  $gmane/127980

refers to https://public-inbox.org/git/?q=gmane:127980.  There are
numerous examples of both kinds of references in the mailing list
archive.

Thanks,
Jonathan

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## Junio C Hamano, 2019-12-30 23:33

Subject: Re: "gmane:" search undocumented on lore.kernel.org/git
Message-ID: <xmqqblrpfky5.fsf@gitster-ct.c.googlers.com>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/xmqqblrpfky5.fsf%40gitster-ct.c.googlers.com
In-Reply-To: <20191230231620.lcydd5egk4ma2rph@chatter.i7.local>

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Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org> writes:

>> gmane:  doesn't seem configured on lore at all.  Compare:
>> 
>> 	https://lore.kernel.org/git/?q=gmane:1
>> 	https://public-inbox.org/git/?q=gmane:1
>
> I haven't configured them because I don't understand what benefit they 
> serve. If someone can explain their benefit, I can consider adding this 
> to the roadmap.

Just that many old messages you find in the lore and public-inbox
archive (and also a handful of commit log messages) use the syntax
like $gmane/290280 to refer to messages on the list with gmane plus
the article numbers.


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