{"thread":{"id":"52543","subject":"\"gmane:\" search undocumented on lore.kernel.org/git","startedAt":"2019-12-30T23:06:15Z","lastAt":"2019-12-30T23:33:14Z","messageCount":5,"participants":["Philippe Blain","Eric Wong","Konstantin Ryabitsev","Jonathan Nieder","Junio C Hamano"],"isPatch":false,"patchVersion":null,"patchTotal":null},"messages":[{"id":"389112","messageId":"03879A6A-2E8B-45D9-A06E-51926AC949F9@gmail.com","threadId":"52543","inReplyTo":null,"subject":"\"gmane:\" search undocumented on lore.kernel.org/git","fromName":"Philippe Blain","fromEmail":"levraiphilippeblain@gmail.com","sentAt":"2019-12-30T23:06:09Z","receivedAt":"2019-12-30T23:06:15Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"levraiphilippeblain@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/44212482?v=4"},"body":"Hello all,\n\nI just noticed that the help page on lore.kernel.org/git does not mention the possibility of searching for messages using Gmane id’s, as the public-inbox.org/git help page does. \n\nThe search works though, it’s just undocumented, so I thought I’d share; I don’t know how much control we have on the lore.kernel.org public-inbox installation. \n\nCheers,\nPhilippe. "},{"id":"389113","messageId":"20191230231350.GA16499@dcvr","threadId":"52543","inReplyTo":"03879A6A-2E8B-45D9-A06E-51926AC949F9@gmail.com","subject":"Re: \"gmane:\" search undocumented on lore.kernel.org/git","fromName":"Eric Wong","fromEmail":"e@80x24.org","sentAt":"2019-12-30T23:13:50Z","receivedAt":"2019-12-30T23:14:05Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"e@80x24.org","avatar":null},"body":"Philippe Blain <levraiphilippeblain@gmail.com> wrote:\n> Hello all,\n> \n> I just noticed that the help page on lore.kernel.org/git does not mention the possibility of searching for messages using Gmane id’s, as the public-inbox.org/git help page does. \n> \n> The search works though, it’s just undocumented, so I thought I’d share; I don’t know how much control we have on the lore.kernel.org public-inbox installation. \n\n+Cc Konstantin who runs lore.\n\nUnless you're getting load-balanced to differently configured\ninstances, I think it's luck that the \"gmane:\" queries you tried\nwork.\n\ngmane:  doesn't seem configured on lore at all.  Compare:\n\n\thttps://lore.kernel.org/git/?q=gmane:1\n\thttps://public-inbox.org/git/?q=gmane:1\n"},{"id":"389114","messageId":"20191230231620.lcydd5egk4ma2rph@chatter.i7.local","threadId":"52543","inReplyTo":"20191230231350.GA16499@dcvr","subject":"Re: \"gmane:\" search undocumented on lore.kernel.org/git","fromName":"Konstantin Ryabitsev","fromEmail":"konstantin@linuxfoundation.org","sentAt":"2019-12-30T23:16:20Z","receivedAt":"2019-12-30T23:16:24Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"konstantin@linuxfoundation.org","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/7cb8827c6de56e1bd2dea16508c6708aa43feed3bf3813bcdacecdf96ceadd79?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 11:13:50PM +0000, Eric Wong wrote:\n> Philippe Blain <levraiphilippeblain@gmail.com> wrote:\n> > Hello all,\n> > \n> > I just noticed that the help page on lore.kernel.org/git does not mention the possibility of searching for messages using Gmane id’s, as the public-inbox.org/git help page does. \n> > \n> > The search works though, it’s just undocumented, so I thought I’d share; I don’t know how much control we have on the lore.kernel.org public-inbox installation. \n> \n> +Cc Konstantin who runs lore.\n> \n> Unless you're getting load-balanced to differently configured\n> instances, I think it's luck that the \"gmane:\" queries you tried\n> work.\n> \n> gmane:  doesn't seem configured on lore at all.  Compare:\n> \n> \thttps://lore.kernel.org/git/?q=gmane:1\n> \thttps://public-inbox.org/git/?q=gmane:1\n\nI haven't configured them because I don't understand what benefit they \nserve. If someone can explain their benefit, I can consider adding this \nto the roadmap.\n\n-K\n"},{"id":"389115","messageId":"20191230232554.GA13606@google.com","threadId":"52543","inReplyTo":"20191230231620.lcydd5egk4ma2rph@chatter.i7.local","subject":"Re: \"gmane:\" search undocumented on lore.kernel.org/git","fromName":"Jonathan Nieder","fromEmail":"jrnieder@gmail.com","sentAt":"2019-12-30T23:25:54Z","receivedAt":"2019-12-30T23:25:58Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"jrnieder@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/281595?v=4"},"body":"Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:\n> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 11:13:50PM +0000, Eric Wong wrote:\n\n>> gmane:  doesn't seem configured on lore at all.  Compare:\n>>\n>> \thttps://lore.kernel.org/git/?q=gmane:1\n>> \thttps://public-inbox.org/git/?q=gmane:1\n>\n> I haven't configured them because I don't understand what benefit they\n> serve. If someone can explain their benefit, I can consider adding this\n> to the roadmap.\n\nThey allow finding the messages referred to by historic gmane.org\nlinks.  For example,\n\n  http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/151297/focus=151435\n\nrefers to https://public-inbox.org/git/?q=gmane:151435, and\n\n  $gmane/127980\n\nrefers to https://public-inbox.org/git/?q=gmane:127980.  There are\nnumerous examples of both kinds of references in the mailing list\narchive.\n\nThanks,\nJonathan\n"},{"id":"389117","messageId":"xmqqblrpfky5.fsf@gitster-ct.c.googlers.com","threadId":"52543","inReplyTo":"20191230231620.lcydd5egk4ma2rph@chatter.i7.local","subject":"Re: \"gmane:\" search undocumented on lore.kernel.org/git","fromName":"Junio C Hamano","fromEmail":"gitster@pobox.com","sentAt":"2019-12-30T23:33:06Z","receivedAt":"2019-12-30T23:33:14Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"gitster@pobox.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/54884?v=4"},"body":"Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org> writes:\n\n>> gmane:  doesn't seem configured on lore at all.  Compare:\n>> \n>> \thttps://lore.kernel.org/git/?q=gmane:1\n>> \thttps://public-inbox.org/git/?q=gmane:1\n>\n> I haven't configured them because I don't understand what benefit they \n> serve. If someone can explain their benefit, I can consider adding this \n> to the roadmap.\n\nJust that many old messages you find in the lore and public-inbox\narchive (and also a handful of commit log messages) use the syntax\nlike $gmane/290280 to refer to messages on the list with gmane plus\nthe article numbers.\n\n"}]}