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Alternatives to mid.gmane.org?

Subject: Alternatives to mid.gmane.org?

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6 messages between Jul 28, 2016 and Aug 11, 2016.

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Jeff King· Jul 28, 2016, 13:52 UTC · re: Lars Schneider · lore

Re: Alternatives to mid.gmane.org?

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 11:11:54AM +0200, Lars Schneider wrote:
> gmane is down and I wonder if there are alternatives to 
> find a message based on the message ID in the Git
> mailing list archive?
Try:
  https://public-inbox.org/git/20160710004813.GA20210@dcvr.yhbt.net
-Peff
Duy Nguyen· Jul 28, 2016, 17:15 UTC · re: Lars Schneider · lore

Re: Alternatives to mid.gmane.org?

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Lars Schneider <larsxschneider@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> gmane is down

I read this and thought "temporarily" but apparently it's not [1]. A lot of our links in the mail archive are gmane's :(

[1] https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2016/07/28/the-end-of-gmane/
-- 
Duy
Eric Wong· Jul 28, 2016, 19:03 UTC · re: Duy Nguyen · lore

Re: Alternatives to mid.gmane.org?

Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Lars Schneider
> <larsxschneider@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > gmane is down
At least the following should work in case public-inbox fails:
	https://mid.mail-archive.com/%s
	https://marc.info/?i=%s

public-inbox falls back to them on missing MIDs, along with https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/%s

I trip over power cords all the time, I'm hoping other people mirror/replicate the setup Jeff also linked to:

https://public-inbox.org/git/20160710004813.GA20210@dcvr.yhbt.net/

Right now my email subscription is still an SPOF for the mirror, along with vger.kernel.org...

> I read this and thought "temporarily" but apparently it's not [1]. A
> lot of our links in the mail archive are gmane's :(
> 
> [1] https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2016/07/28/the-end-of-gmane/
:<

I'll see what I can do about getting a gmane NUM -> MID mapping up while NNTP still works...

Eric Wong· Jul 28, 2016, 22:06 UTC · re: Duy Nguyen · lore

Re: Alternatives to mid.gmane.org?

Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com> wrote:
> I read this and thought "temporarily" but apparently it's not [1]. A
> lot of our links in the mail archive are gmane's :(
> 
> [1] https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2016/07/28/the-end-of-gmane/

I may not have time to integrate this extensibly into the public-inbox search engine today, but at least here is an NNTP article number to Message-ID mapping for non-NNTP users:

https://public-inbox.org/.temp/gmane.comp.version-control.git-300599.txt.gz (~5 MB)

Script used to generate this:
https://public-inbox.org/meta/20160728220145.13024-1-e@80x24.org/
Eric Wong· Aug 11, 2016, 00:28 UTC · re: Eric Wong · lore

Re: Alternatives to mid.gmane.org?

Eric Wong <e@80x24.org> wrote:
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> Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I read this and thought "temporarily" but apparently it's not [1]. A
> > lot of our links in the mail archive are gmane's :(
> > 
> > [1] https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2016/07/28/the-end-of-gmane/
> 
> I may not have time to integrate this extensibly into the public-inbox
> search engine today, but at least here is an NNTP article number to
> Message-ID mapping for non-NNTP users:
I'm working on getting "gmane:NNN" searches working.

I'm deploying and reindexing this change to one of the onions, first. So, to get article 123 from "gmane:123":

	http://czquwvybam4bgbro.onion/git/?q=gmane%3A123
	(%3A is the URI escape for ':')

For those unable to run Tor, you can also try using a Tor2web proxy listed at https://www.tor2web.org/ For example:

	http://czquwvybam4bgbro.onion.to/git/?q=gmane%3A123

Additionally, searching by Message-ID with the search box will also work after the reindexing (instead of just using the Message-ID in the URL):

	https://public-inbox.org/meta/20160810232358.GA29130@whir/

After this is fully-deployed and working well; the plan is also to be able to fix existing gmane links (and also handling the $gmane/NNN links that were commonly used).

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> https://public-inbox.org/.temp/gmane.comp.version-control.git-300599.txt.gz
> (~5 MB)
> 
> Script used to generate this:
> 
> https://public-inbox.org/meta/20160728220145.13024-1-e@80x24.org/

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