{"thread":{"id":"42945","subject":"Alternatives to mid.gmane.org?","startedAt":"2016-07-28T09:12:11Z","lastAt":"2016-08-11T00:28:35Z","messageCount":6,"participants":["Lars Schneider","Jeff King","Duy Nguyen","Eric Wong"],"isPatch":false,"patchVersion":null,"patchTotal":null},"messages":[{"id":"292390","messageId":"481D1EE2-6A66-418F-AB28-95947BBF3680@gmail.com","threadId":"42945","inReplyTo":null,"subject":"Alternatives to mid.gmane.org?","fromName":"Lars Schneider","fromEmail":"larsxschneider@gmail.com","sentAt":"2016-07-28T09:11:54Z","receivedAt":"2016-07-28T09:12:11Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"larsxschneider@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/477434?v=4"},"body":"Hi,\n\ngmane is down and I wonder if there are alternatives to \nfind a message based on the message ID in the Git\nmailing list archive?\n\nThanks,\nLars\n"},{"id":"292407","messageId":"20160728135249.GA25783@sigill.intra.peff.net","threadId":"42945","inReplyTo":"481D1EE2-6A66-418F-AB28-95947BBF3680@gmail.com","subject":"Re: Alternatives to mid.gmane.org?","fromName":"Jeff King","fromEmail":"peff@peff.net","sentAt":"2016-07-28T13:52:49Z","receivedAt":"2016-07-28T13:53:10Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"peff@peff.net","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/45925?v=4"},"body":"On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 11:11:54AM +0200, Lars Schneider wrote:\n\n> gmane is down and I wonder if there are alternatives to \n> find a message based on the message ID in the Git\n> mailing list archive?\n\nTry:\n\n  https://public-inbox.org/git/20160710004813.GA20210@dcvr.yhbt.net\n\n-Peff\n"},{"id":"292430","messageId":"CACsJy8Cr-=09dDMTNpqobPkcVjU54+b-fLX61+cz2jkS8o+Tiw@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"42945","inReplyTo":"481D1EE2-6A66-418F-AB28-95947BBF3680@gmail.com","subject":"Re: Alternatives to mid.gmane.org?","fromName":"Duy Nguyen","fromEmail":"pclouds@gmail.com","sentAt":"2016-07-28T17:15:12Z","receivedAt":"2016-07-28T17:15:49Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"pclouds@gmail.com","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/720?v=4"},"body":"On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Lars Schneider\n<larsxschneider@gmail.com> wrote:\n> Hi,\n>\n> gmane is down\n\nI read this and thought \"temporarily\" but apparently it's not [1]. A\nlot of our links in the mail archive are gmane's :(\n\n[1] https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2016/07/28/the-end-of-gmane/\n-- \nDuy\n"},{"id":"292441","messageId":"20160728190326.GA9430@starla","threadId":"42945","inReplyTo":"CACsJy8Cr-=09dDMTNpqobPkcVjU54+b-fLX61+cz2jkS8o+Tiw@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Alternatives to mid.gmane.org?","fromName":"Eric Wong","fromEmail":"e@80x24.org","sentAt":"2016-07-28T19:03:26Z","receivedAt":"2016-07-28T19:03:32Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"e@80x24.org","avatar":null},"body":"Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com> wrote:\n> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Lars Schneider\n> <larsxschneider@gmail.com> wrote:\n> > Hi,\n> >\n> > gmane is down\n\nAt least the following should work in case public-inbox fails:\n\n\thttps://mid.mail-archive.com/%s\n\thttps://marc.info/?i=%s\n\npublic-inbox falls back to them on missing MIDs,\nalong with https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/%s\n\nI trip over power cords all the time, I'm hoping other\npeople mirror/replicate the setup Jeff also linked to:\n\nhttps://public-inbox.org/git/20160710004813.GA20210@dcvr.yhbt.net/\n\nRight now my email subscription is still an SPOF for the mirror,\nalong with vger.kernel.org...\n\n> I read this and thought \"temporarily\" but apparently it's not [1]. A\n> lot of our links in the mail archive are gmane's :(\n> \n> [1] https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2016/07/28/the-end-of-gmane/\n\n:<\n\nI'll see what I can do about getting a gmane NUM -> MID mapping\nup while NNTP still works...\n"},{"id":"292458","messageId":"20160728220601.GA13110@dcvr","threadId":"42945","inReplyTo":"CACsJy8Cr-=09dDMTNpqobPkcVjU54+b-fLX61+cz2jkS8o+Tiw@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Alternatives to mid.gmane.org?","fromName":"Eric Wong","fromEmail":"e@80x24.org","sentAt":"2016-07-28T22:06:01Z","receivedAt":"2016-07-28T22:06:07Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"e@80x24.org","avatar":null},"body":"Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com> wrote:\n> I read this and thought \"temporarily\" but apparently it's not [1]. A\n> lot of our links in the mail archive are gmane's :(\n> \n> [1] https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2016/07/28/the-end-of-gmane/\n\nI may not have time to integrate this extensibly into the public-inbox\nsearch engine today, but at least here is an NNTP article number to\nMessage-ID mapping for non-NNTP users:\n\nhttps://public-inbox.org/.temp/gmane.comp.version-control.git-300599.txt.gz\n(~5 MB)\n\nScript used to generate this:\n\nhttps://public-inbox.org/meta/20160728220145.13024-1-e@80x24.org/\n"},{"id":"293685","messageId":"20160811002819.GA8311@starla","threadId":"42945","inReplyTo":"20160728220601.GA13110@dcvr","subject":"Re: Alternatives to mid.gmane.org?","fromName":"Eric Wong","fromEmail":"e@80x24.org","sentAt":"2016-08-11T00:28:19Z","receivedAt":"2016-08-11T00:28:35Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"e@80x24.org","avatar":null},"body":"Eric Wong <e@80x24.org> wrote:\n> Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com> wrote:\n> > I read this and thought \"temporarily\" but apparently it's not [1]. A\n> > lot of our links in the mail archive are gmane's :(\n> > \n> > [1] https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2016/07/28/the-end-of-gmane/\n> \n> I may not have time to integrate this extensibly into the public-inbox\n> search engine today, but at least here is an NNTP article number to\n> Message-ID mapping for non-NNTP users:\n\nI'm working on getting \"gmane:NNN\" searches working.\n\nI'm deploying and reindexing this change to one of the onions, first.\nSo, to get article 123 from \"gmane:123\":\n\n\thttp://czquwvybam4bgbro.onion/git/?q=gmane%3A123\n\n\t(%3A is the URI escape for ':')\n\nFor those unable to run Tor, you can also try using a Tor2web\nproxy listed at https://www.tor2web.org/  For example:\n\n\thttp://czquwvybam4bgbro.onion.to/git/?q=gmane%3A123\n\nAdditionally, searching by Message-ID with the search box will\nalso work after the reindexing (instead of just using the\nMessage-ID in the URL):\n\n\thttps://public-inbox.org/meta/20160810232358.GA29130@whir/\n\nAfter this is fully-deployed and working well; the plan is also\nto be able to fix existing gmane links (and also handling\nthe $gmane/NNN links that were commonly used).\n\n> https://public-inbox.org/.temp/gmane.comp.version-control.git-300599.txt.gz\n> (~5 MB)\n> \n> Script used to generate this:\n> \n> https://public-inbox.org/meta/20160728220145.13024-1-e@80x24.org/\n"}]}