# Alternatives to mid.gmane.org?

6 messages from 2016-07-28 to 2016-08-11. Participants: Lars Schneider, Jeff King, Duy Nguyen, Eric Wong.
Thread: https://gitlist.dev/t/42945

## Lars Schneider, 2016-07-28 09:11

Subject: Alternatives to mid.gmane.org?
Message-ID: <481D1EE2-6A66-418F-AB28-95947BBF3680@gmail.com>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/481D1EE2-6A66-418F-AB28-95947BBF3680%40gmail.com

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Hi,

gmane is down and I wonder if there are alternatives to 
find a message based on the message ID in the Git
mailing list archive?

Thanks,
Lars

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## Jeff King, 2016-07-28 13:52

Subject: Re: Alternatives to mid.gmane.org?
Message-ID: <20160728135249.GA25783@sigill.intra.peff.net>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20160728135249.GA25783%40sigill.intra.peff.net
In-Reply-To: <481D1EE2-6A66-418F-AB28-95947BBF3680@gmail.com>

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On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 11:11:54AM +0200, Lars Schneider wrote:

> gmane is down and I wonder if there are alternatives to 
> find a message based on the message ID in the Git
> mailing list archive?

Try:

  https://public-inbox.org/git/20160710004813.GA20210@dcvr.yhbt.net

-Peff

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## Duy Nguyen, 2016-07-28 17:15

Subject: Re: Alternatives to mid.gmane.org?
Message-ID: <CACsJy8Cr-=09dDMTNpqobPkcVjU54+b-fLX61+cz2jkS8o+Tiw@mail.gmail.com>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/CACsJy8Cr-%3D09dDMTNpqobPkcVjU54%2Bb-fLX61%2Bcz2jkS8o%2BTiw%40mail.gmail.com
In-Reply-To: <481D1EE2-6A66-418F-AB28-95947BBF3680@gmail.com>

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On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Lars Schneider
<larsxschneider@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> gmane is down

I read this and thought "temporarily" but apparently it's not [1]. A
lot of our links in the mail archive are gmane's :(

[1] https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2016/07/28/the-end-of-gmane/
-- 
Duy

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## Eric Wong, 2016-07-28 19:03

Subject: Re: Alternatives to mid.gmane.org?
Message-ID: <20160728190326.GA9430@starla>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20160728190326.GA9430%40starla
In-Reply-To: <CACsJy8Cr-=09dDMTNpqobPkcVjU54+b-fLX61+cz2jkS8o+Tiw@mail.gmail.com>

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Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Lars Schneider
> <larsxschneider@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > gmane is down

At least the following should work in case public-inbox fails:

	https://mid.mail-archive.com/%s
	https://marc.info/?i=%s

public-inbox falls back to them on missing MIDs,
along with https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/%s

I trip over power cords all the time, I'm hoping other
people mirror/replicate the setup Jeff also linked to:

https://public-inbox.org/git/20160710004813.GA20210@dcvr.yhbt.net/

Right now my email subscription is still an SPOF for the mirror,
along with vger.kernel.org...

> I read this and thought "temporarily" but apparently it's not [1]. A
> lot of our links in the mail archive are gmane's :(
> 
> [1] https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2016/07/28/the-end-of-gmane/

:<

I'll see what I can do about getting a gmane NUM -> MID mapping
up while NNTP still works...

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## Eric Wong, 2016-07-28 22:06

Subject: Re: Alternatives to mid.gmane.org?
Message-ID: <20160728220601.GA13110@dcvr>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20160728220601.GA13110%40dcvr
In-Reply-To: <CACsJy8Cr-=09dDMTNpqobPkcVjU54+b-fLX61+cz2jkS8o+Tiw@mail.gmail.com>

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Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com> wrote:
> I read this and thought "temporarily" but apparently it's not [1]. A
> lot of our links in the mail archive are gmane's :(
> 
> [1] https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2016/07/28/the-end-of-gmane/

I may not have time to integrate this extensibly into the public-inbox
search engine today, but at least here is an NNTP article number to
Message-ID mapping for non-NNTP users:

https://public-inbox.org/.temp/gmane.comp.version-control.git-300599.txt.gz
(~5 MB)

Script used to generate this:

https://public-inbox.org/meta/20160728220145.13024-1-e@80x24.org/

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## Eric Wong, 2016-08-11 00:28

Subject: Re: Alternatives to mid.gmane.org?
Message-ID: <20160811002819.GA8311@starla>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20160811002819.GA8311%40starla
In-Reply-To: <20160728220601.GA13110@dcvr>

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Eric Wong <e@80x24.org> wrote:
> Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I read this and thought "temporarily" but apparently it's not [1]. A
> > lot of our links in the mail archive are gmane's :(
> > 
> > [1] https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2016/07/28/the-end-of-gmane/
> 
> I may not have time to integrate this extensibly into the public-inbox
> search engine today, but at least here is an NNTP article number to
> Message-ID mapping for non-NNTP users:

I'm working on getting "gmane:NNN" searches working.

I'm deploying and reindexing this change to one of the onions, first.
So, to get article 123 from "gmane:123":

	http://czquwvybam4bgbro.onion/git/?q=gmane%3A123

	(%3A is the URI escape for ':')

For those unable to run Tor, you can also try using a Tor2web
proxy listed at https://www.tor2web.org/  For example:

	http://czquwvybam4bgbro.onion.to/git/?q=gmane%3A123

Additionally, searching by Message-ID with the search box will
also work after the reindexing (instead of just using the
Message-ID in the URL):

	https://public-inbox.org/meta/20160810232358.GA29130@whir/

After this is fully-deployed and working well; the plan is also
to be able to fix existing gmane links (and also handling
the $gmane/NNN links that were commonly used).

> https://public-inbox.org/.temp/gmane.comp.version-control.git-300599.txt.gz
> (~5 MB)
> 
> Script used to generate this:
> 
> https://public-inbox.org/meta/20160728220145.13024-1-e@80x24.org/

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