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patchRe: [PATCH] l10n: de.po: translate 265 new messages

Subject: Re: [PATCH] l10n: de.po: translate 265 new messages

## tl;dr

4 messages between May 20, 2012 and May 21, 2012. Diffs are folded; open one to read it.

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Christian Stimming· May 20, 2012, 20:56 UTC · lore

Dear Ralf,

your changes are very good. However, I just noticed one specific stylistic issue with the existing German translation, which you've continued in the very same way:

Am Sonntag, 20. Mai 2012, 19:09:15 schrieb Ralf Thielow:

> +#: help.c:214
> +msgid "git commands available from elsewhere on your $PATH"
> +msgstr "Vorhandene Git-Kommandos irgendwo in deinem $PATH"

(and several more following)

The translation (both in the existing strings and in your newly added ones) addresses the user as "du" instead of "Sie" (for the non-German-speaking: "du" is the informal addressing, "Sie" is the formal addressing). However, in German software there are two main rules on this: 1. Don't address the user directly. Rather prefer passive forms over directly addressing the person. I know English software is much more permissive of this one. Hence, occasionally the German translator should take the freedom to change the wording so that the addressing of the user is replaced in the translation by some passive wording without the addressing of the user. 2. If the addressing of the user is unavoidable, the text should use "Sie" instead of "du". Addressing the user as "du" should be constrained to audiences which for sure always address each other as "du", such as certain educational settings and/or games and such (and maybe in the Ikea-Katalog, but even there they switched from Du to Sie and back again several times). Please try to avoid using "du" in developer tools' user-visible strings. Thanks a lot!

Regards,

Christian

Ralf Thielow· May 21, 2012, 18:02 UTC · re: Christian Stimming · lore

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>
> The translation (both in the existing strings and in your newly added ones)
> addresses the user as "du" instead of "Sie" (for the non-German-speaking: "du"
> is the informal addressing, "Sie" is the formal addressing). However, in
> German software there are two main rules on this: 1. Don't address the user
> directly. Rather prefer passive forms over directly addressing the person. I
> know English software is much more permissive of this one. Hence, occasionally
> the German translator should take the freedom to change the wording so that
> the addressing of the user is replaced in the translation by some passive
> wording without the addressing of the user. 2. If the addressing of the user
> is unavoidable, the text should use "Sie" instead of "du". Addressing the user
> as "du" should be constrained to audiences which for sure always address each
> other as "du", such as certain educational settings and/or games and such (and
> maybe in the Ikea-Katalog, but even there they switched from Du to Sie and
> back again several times). Please try to avoid using "du" in developer tools'
> user-visible strings. Thanks a lot!
>

Hi Christian,

thanks for your review. I agree with you that using a formal addressing is better and probably sounds a bit more serious than an informal. However, I would put that change in another commit to make it through the whole translation, because it's probably not a good idea to mix them. This also includes the last git.pot update on master. I don't expect big updates on git.pot after 1.7.11-rc0 was tagged, so afterwards I start working on this.

Thanks

Ralf

Christian Stimming· May 21, 2012, 19:44 UTC · re: Ralf Thielow · lore

Am Montag, 21. Mai 2012, 20:02:26 schrieb Ralf Thielow:

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> Hi Christian,
> 
> thanks for your review. I agree with you that using a formal addressing
> is better and probably sounds a bit more serious than an informal. However,
> I would put that change in another commit to make it through the whole
> translation,
> because it's probably not a good idea to mix them. This also includes the
> last git.pot update on master. I don't expect big updates on git.pot after
> 1.7.11-rc0 was tagged, so afterwards I start working on this.

Hi Ralf,

this is a very good proposal! Indeed the addressing shouldn't be mixed for now. Thanks for picking up the suggestion.

Regards,

Christian

Jiang Xin· May 21, 2012, 01:21 UTC · lore

Hi Ralf,

Congratulations. You and Germany l10n team have done great work in this around of l10n. As for Chinese, this work may be completed in two weeks when I have much time.

Before you send me a pull request, I sync the git-po repository with upstream and update the 'git.pot' again. There are 41 new l10n messages, and you can make another commit for it.

Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 09:00:39 +0800
Subject: [PATCH] l10n: Update git.pot (41 new messages)

Generate po/git.pot from v1.7.10.2-548-g9de96:

 * 41 new l10n messages at lines:

   332, 337, 344, 349, 967, 1288, 1292, 1296, 1300, 1304, 1308, 1312,
   1316, 1320, 1324, 1328, 1332, 1336, 1340, 1344, 1348, 1352, 1356,
   1360, 1364, 1368, 1372, 1376, 1380, 1384, 1388, 1392, 1396, 4465,
   4469, 4473, 4477, 4481, 4485, 4489, 4493.

Signed-off-by: Jiang Xin <worldhello.net@gmail.com>
---
 po/git.pot | 171 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
 1 file changed, 170 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

2012/5/21 Ralf Thielow <ralf.thielow@googlemail.com>:

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> Signed-off-by: Ralf Thielow <ralf.thielow@googlemail.com>
> ---
>  po/de.po | 2296 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------------
>  1 Datei geändert, 1855 Zeilen hinzugefügt(+), 441 Zeilen entfernt(-)
>

-- 
Jiang Xin