Splitting the mailing list up

> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 21:00, Rico Secada <coolzone@it.dk> wrote:
> > The list receives a lot of traffic and it might be beneficial to
> > split things up.
> 
> Why is a lot of traffic a bad thing?

> Hi all.
> 
> Would it be a bad idea to split the Git mailing list up in several
> sub-categories?
> 
> Example:
> 
> announce@
> dev@
> user@
> 
> etc.
> 
> The list receives a lot of traffic and it might be beneficial to split
> things up.
> 
> Anyway, just a suggestion.
> 
> Best regards.
> 
> Rico
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> Would it be a bad idea to split the Git mailing list up in several
> sub-categories?
>
> Example:
>
> announce@
> dev@
> user@

> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 23:00, Rico Secada <coolzone@it.dk> wrote:
>> Would it be a bad idea to split the Git mailing list up in several
>> sub-categories?
>> 
>> Example:
>> 
>> announce@
>> dev@
>> user@
> 
> Why not, but the simple way is to create another ml for patchs.
> Without patchs, the traffic seems relatively low.

> El 26/09/2010, a las 18:02, Sebastien Douche escribió:
>
>> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 23:00, Rico Secada <coolzone@it.dk> wrote:
>>> Would it be a bad idea to split the Git mailing list up in several
>>> sub-categories?
>>>
>>> Example:
>>>
>>> announce@
>>> dev@
>>> user@
>>
>> Why not, but the simple way is to create another ml for patchs.
>> Without patchs, the traffic seems relatively low.
>
> This has come up many times, and been rejected each time. Check the archives for the reasons why.

> Right, but for the *main* mailing list. However if Rico, Walter and
> others would find a limited traffic mailing list valuable there's
> nothing stopping them from setting one up.
> 
> Jay linked to an archive where someone is running RSS feeds of the
> different parts of the git list, similarly you could set up a git-user
> list which would be a version of the git list filtered to reduce patch
> traffic.
> 
> Maybe that list wouldn't make much sense when patches are intermingled
> with regular discussion, but it's worth a try.

> Hi all.
> 
> Would it be a bad idea to split the Git mailing list up in several
> sub-categories?
> 
> Example:
> 
> announce@
> dev@
> user@
> 
> etc.
> 
> The list receives a lot of traffic and it might be beneficial to split
> things up.
> 

> Hi all.
>
> Would it be a bad idea to split the Git mailing list up in several
> sub-categories?
>

> On Sep 27, 2010, at 11:22 PM, Adrian Buehlmann wrote:
> 
>> I think this would definitely be an improvement for git users. At least
>> splitting up into dev and user, like Mercurial does it too (which I am
>> used to). Not sure about announce though.
>>
>> When I recently subscribed to this list (after having been a long time
>> subscriber to the Mercurial lists too), I was interested in seeing
>> discussions about git usage to help me get started with git.
>>
>> I also think searching the archives would be a bit easier if discussions
>> of new git development details and its usage would be separated.
> 
> Perhaps it would make more sense to simply create a new list for git
> newbies to get help, and to not change the nature of this existing list
> at all.

> On 28.09.2010 22:06, Kevin Ballard wrote:
>> On Sep 27, 2010, at 11:22 PM, Adrian Buehlmann wrote:
>>
>>> I think this would definitely be an improvement for git users. At least
>>> splitting up into dev and user, like Mercurial does it too (which I am
>>> used to). Not sure about announce though.
>>>
>>> When I recently subscribed to this list (after having been a long time
>>> subscriber to the Mercurial lists too), I was interested in seeing
>>> discussions about git usage to help me get started with git.
>>>
>>> I also think searching the archives would be a bit easier if discussions
>>> of new git development details and its usage would be separated.
>>
>> Perhaps it would make more sense to simply create a new list for git
>> newbies to get help, and to not change the nature of this existing list
>> at all.
> 
> Of course, I would be fine if this list here would be simply defined as
> the "git development centric list" and a new, more usage-centric list
> could be started (git-users ?).

> Adrian Buehlmann venit, vidit, dixit 29.09.2010 10:36:
>> On 28.09.2010 22:06, Kevin Ballard wrote:
>>> On Sep 27, 2010, at 11:22 PM, Adrian Buehlmann wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think this would definitely be an improvement for git users. At least
>>>> splitting up into dev and user, like Mercurial does it too (which I am
>>>> used to). Not sure about announce though.
>>>>
>>>> When I recently subscribed to this list (after having been a long time
>>>> subscriber to the Mercurial lists too), I was interested in seeing
>>>> discussions about git usage to help me get started with git.
>>>>
>>>> I also think searching the archives would be a bit easier if discussions
>>>> of new git development details and its usage would be separated.
>>>
>>> Perhaps it would make more sense to simply create a new list for git
>>> newbies to get help, and to not change the nature of this existing list
>>> at all.
>>
>> Of course, I would be fine if this list here would be simply defined as
>> the "git development centric list" and a new, more usage-centric list
>> could be started (git-users ?).
>
> You mean something like:
>
> git-users@googlegroups.com
>
> I don't participate there, but my impression is that it's really a user
> group.
>

> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Michael J Gruber
> <git@drmicha.warpmail.net> wrote:
>> Adrian Buehlmann venit, vidit, dixit 29.09.2010 10:36:
>>> On 28.09.2010 22:06, Kevin Ballard wrote:
>>>> On Sep 27, 2010, at 11:22 PM, Adrian Buehlmann wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think this would definitely be an improvement for git users. At least
>>>>> splitting up into dev and user, like Mercurial does it too (which I am
>>>>> used to). Not sure about announce though.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I recently subscribed to this list (after having been a long time
>>>>> subscriber to the Mercurial lists too), I was interested in seeing
>>>>> discussions about git usage to help me get started with git.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also think searching the archives would be a bit easier if discussions
>>>>> of new git development details and its usage would be separated.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps it would make more sense to simply create a new list for git
>>>> newbies to get help, and to not change the nature of this existing list
>>>> at all.
>>>
>>> Of course, I would be fine if this list here would be simply defined as
>>> the "git development centric list" and a new, more usage-centric list
>>> could be started (git-users ?).
>>
>> You mean something like:
>>
>> git-users@googlegroups.com
>>
>> I don't participate there, but my impression is that it's really a user
>> group.
>>

> http://groups.google.com/group/git-users says "This is the git mailing
> list for users, feel free to ask any question about git usage.", so
> yes. I think we already have that list. Perhaps all we need to do is
> to add a link to it on the front-page of git-scm.com, next to the link
> to this? Perhaps something like "You can also ask the Git development
> community directly at our git@vger.kernel.org mailing list, or the Git
> user community at git-users@googlegroups.com"?
> 
> That would imply making it a bit more official, but perhaps it's a
> good compromise?

> On 29.09.2010 15:00, Erik Faye-Lund wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Michael J Gruber
>> <git@drmicha.warpmail.net> wrote:
>>> Adrian Buehlmann venit, vidit, dixit 29.09.2010 10:36:
>>>> Of course, I would be fine if this list here would be simply defined as
>>>> the "git development centric list" and a new, more usage-centric list
>>>> could be started (git-users ?).
>>>
>>> You mean something like:
>>>
>>> git-users@googlegroups.com
>>>
>>> I don't participate there, but my impression is that it's really a user
>>> group.
>>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/git-users says "This is the git mailing
>> list for users, feel free to ask any question about git usage.", so
>> yes. I think we already have that list. Perhaps all we need to do is
>> to add a link to it on the front-page of git-scm.com, next to the link
>> to this? Perhaps something like "You can also ask the Git development
>> community directly at our git@vger.kernel.org mailing list, or the Git
>> user community at git-users@googlegroups.com"?
>>
>> That would imply making it a bit more official, but perhaps it's a
>> good compromise?
>
> At least it could be mentioned on
> https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/GitCommunity
> ?

> http://groups.google.com/group/git-users says "This is the git mailing
> list for users, feel free to ask any question about git usage.", so
> yes. I think we already have that list. Perhaps all we need to do is
> to add a link to it on the front-page of git-scm.com, next to the link
> to this? Perhaps something like "You can also ask the Git development
> community directly at our git@vger.kernel.org mailing list, or the Git
> user community at git-users@googlegroups.com"?
>
> That would imply making it a bit more official, but perhaps it's a
> good compromise?

> Heya,
>
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 15:00, Erik Faye-Lund <kusmabite@gmail.com> wrote:
>> http://groups.google.com/group/git-users says "This is the git mailing
>> list for users, feel free to ask any question about git usage.", so
>> yes. I think we already have that list. Perhaps all we need to do is
>> to add a link to it on the front-page of git-scm.com, next to the link
>> to this? Perhaps something like "You can also ask the Git development
>> community directly at our git@vger.kernel.org mailing list, or the Git
>> user community at git-users@googlegroups.com"?
>>
>> That would imply making it a bit more official, but perhaps it's a
>> good compromise?
>
> Perhaps we can just at 'git@vger.kernel.org' as one of the list users,
> so that all mails sent to git-users@googlegroups.com are forwarded to
> the git list? As long as the git-users group is open to all, that
> should Just Work, no?