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Subject: Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista?
Geoffrey LeeI'm trying to develop for TortoiseGit on a 64-bit Vista SP1 system, but I'm having trouble registering the shell extensions with explorer. I'm hoping somebody else here who has access to 64-bit Vista can tell me if TortoiseGit runs on their machine? I want to find out if this problem is only affecting my machine.
http://code.google.com/p/tortoisegit/
-Geoffrey Lee
Stephen HabermanRe: Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista?
> I'm trying to develop for TortoiseGit on a 64-bit Vista SP1 system, > but I'm having trouble registering the shell extensions with explorer. > I'm hoping somebody else here who has access to 64-bit Vista can tell > me if TortoiseGit runs on their machine?
It kind of works on my Vista 64-bit system--I do not see the shell extensions in the native Windows Explorer (which is 64 bit), but I do see the shell extensions in an Explorer replacement I use (Xplorer2) that is 32-bit.
I've seen other oddities in 32-bit vs. 64-bit programs--e.g. my alt tab replacement (Joe), which is 32-bit, works great with 32-bit programs but cannot remove focus from 64-bit programs (IE, Windows Explorer, etc.). Ironically, very few of the programs I use are 64-bit, so I get by with the alt tab replacement.
- Stephen
Geoffrey LeeRe: Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista?
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Stephen Haberman <stephen@exigencecorp.com> wrote:
> It kind of works on my Vista 64-bit system--I do not see the shell > extensions in the native Windows Explorer (which is 64 bit), but I do > see the shell extensions in an Explorer replacement I use (Xplorer2) > that is 32-bit. > > I've seen other oddities in 32-bit vs. 64-bit programs--e.g. my alt tab > replacement (Joe), which is 32-bit, works great with 32-bit programs > but cannot remove focus from 64-bit programs (IE, Windows Explorer, > etc.). Ironically, very few of the programs I use are 64-bit, so I get > by with the alt tab replacement. > > - Stephen >
Thanks! It seems that 64-bit explorer.exe will not load 32-bit shell extensions. At least now I know I'm not going crazy. :)
-Geoffrey Lee
Johannes SchindelinRe: Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista?
Hi,
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Geoffrey Lee wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Stephen Haberman > <stephen@exigencecorp.com> wrote: > > It kind of works on my Vista 64-bit system--I do not see the shell > > extensions in the native Windows Explorer (which is 64 bit), but I do > > see the shell extensions in an Explorer replacement I use (Xplorer2) > > that is 32-bit. > > > > I've seen other oddities in 32-bit vs. 64-bit programs--e.g. my alt tab > > replacement (Joe), which is 32-bit, works great with 32-bit programs > > but cannot remove focus from 64-bit programs (IE, Windows Explorer, > > etc.). Ironically, very few of the programs I use are 64-bit, so I get > > by with the alt tab replacement. > > > > - Stephen > > > > Thanks! It seems that 64-bit explorer.exe will not load 32-bit shell > extensions. At least now I know I'm not going crazy. :)
How could it? You cannot have 32-bit code and 64-bit code running in the same process. At least not with x86_64 (AFAIK).
Ciao, Dscho
Steven NoonanRe: Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista?
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi, > > On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Geoffrey Lee wrote: > >> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Stephen Haberman >> <stephen@exigencecorp.com> wrote: >> > It kind of works on my Vista 64-bit system--I do not see the shell >> > extensions in the native Windows Explorer (which is 64 bit), but I do >> > see the shell extensions in an Explorer replacement I use (Xplorer2) >> > that is 32-bit. >> > >> > I've seen other oddities in 32-bit vs. 64-bit programs--e.g. my alt tab >> > replacement (Joe), which is 32-bit, works great with 32-bit programs >> > but cannot remove focus from 64-bit programs (IE, Windows Explorer, >> > etc.). Ironically, very few of the programs I use are 64-bit, so I get >> > by with the alt tab replacement. >> > >> > - Stephen >> > >> >> Thanks! It seems that 64-bit explorer.exe will not load 32-bit shell >> extensions. At least now I know I'm not going crazy. :) > > How could it? You cannot have 32-bit code and 64-bit code running in the > same process. At least not with x86_64 (AFAIK). >
Correct, this is also my biggest gripe with how x86_64 is implemented. Thank you, AMD!
- Steven
Johannes SchindelinRe: Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista?
Hi,
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Steven Noonan wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Johannes Schindelin > <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote: > > > > On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Geoffrey Lee wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Stephen Haberman > >> <stephen@exigencecorp.com> wrote: > >> > It kind of works on my Vista 64-bit system--I do not see the shell > >> > extensions in the native Windows Explorer (which is 64 bit), but I > >> > do see the shell extensions in an Explorer replacement I use > >> > (Xplorer2) that is 32-bit. > >> > > >> > I've seen other oddities in 32-bit vs. 64-bit programs--e.g. my alt > >> > tab replacement (Joe), which is 32-bit, works great with 32-bit > >> > programs but cannot remove focus from 64-bit programs (IE, Windows > >> > Explorer, etc.). Ironically, very few of the programs I use are > >> > 64-bit, so I get by with the alt tab replacement. > >> > >> Thanks! It seems that 64-bit explorer.exe will not load 32-bit shell > >> extensions. At least now I know I'm not going crazy. :) > > > > How could it? You cannot have 32-bit code and 64-bit code running in the > > same process. At least not with x86_64 (AFAIK). > > Correct, this is also my biggest gripe with how x86_64 is implemented. > Thank you, AMD!
Come on, at least it is not Itanium.
Ciao, Dscho
Steven NoonanRe: Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista?
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi, > > On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Steven Noonan wrote: > >> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Johannes Schindelin >> <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote: >> > >> > On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Geoffrey Lee wrote: >> > >> >> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Stephen Haberman >> >> <stephen@exigencecorp.com> wrote: >> >> > It kind of works on my Vista 64-bit system--I do not see the shell >> >> > extensions in the native Windows Explorer (which is 64 bit), but I >> >> > do see the shell extensions in an Explorer replacement I use >> >> > (Xplorer2) that is 32-bit. >> >> > >> >> > I've seen other oddities in 32-bit vs. 64-bit programs--e.g. my alt >> >> > tab replacement (Joe), which is 32-bit, works great with 32-bit >> >> > programs but cannot remove focus from 64-bit programs (IE, Windows >> >> > Explorer, etc.). Ironically, very few of the programs I use are >> >> > 64-bit, so I get by with the alt tab replacement. >> >> >> >> Thanks! It seems that 64-bit explorer.exe will not load 32-bit shell >> >> extensions. At least now I know I'm not going crazy. :) >> > >> > How could it? You cannot have 32-bit code and 64-bit code running in the >> > same process. At least not with x86_64 (AFAIK). >> >> Correct, this is also my biggest gripe with how x86_64 is implemented. >> Thank you, AMD! > > Come on, at least it is not Itanium. >
True, but x86_64 had so much potential, and Itanium was doomed from the start.
http://www.emulators.com/docs/nx05_vx64.htm -- This guy has it right.
- Steven
Geoffrey LeeRe: Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista?
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> How could it? You cannot have 32-bit code and 64-bit code running in the > same process. At least not with x86_64 (AFAIK).
Yeah it seems obvious now, but I had gotten used to 64-bit Windows being able to run 32-bit apps so seamlessly that I didn't think about it.
-Geoffrey Lee