# Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista? 8 messages from 2009-01-27 to 2009-01-27. Participants: Geoffrey Lee, Stephen Haberman, Johannes Schindelin, Steven Noonan. Thread: https://gitlist.dev/t/17388 ## Geoffrey Lee, 2009-01-27 09:30 Subject: Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista? Message-ID: <83d7aaa40901270130g3bebb3d6we4839b567f310e46@mail.gmail.com> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/83d7aaa40901270130g3bebb3d6we4839b567f310e46%40mail.gmail.com ``` I'm trying to develop for TortoiseGit on a 64-bit Vista SP1 system, but I'm having trouble registering the shell extensions with explorer. I'm hoping somebody else here who has access to 64-bit Vista can tell me if TortoiseGit runs on their machine? I want to find out if this problem is only affecting my machine. http://code.google.com/p/tortoisegit/ -Geoffrey Lee ``` ## Stephen Haberman, 2009-01-27 18:24 Subject: Re: Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista? Message-ID: <20090127122456.0df531c3.stephen@exigencecorp.com> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20090127122456.0df531c3.stephen%40exigencecorp.com In-Reply-To: <83d7aaa40901270130g3bebb3d6we4839b567f310e46@mail.gmail.com> ``` > I'm trying to develop for TortoiseGit on a 64-bit Vista SP1 system, > but I'm having trouble registering the shell extensions with explorer. > I'm hoping somebody else here who has access to 64-bit Vista can tell > me if TortoiseGit runs on their machine? It kind of works on my Vista 64-bit system--I do not see the shell extensions in the native Windows Explorer (which is 64 bit), but I do see the shell extensions in an Explorer replacement I use (Xplorer2) that is 32-bit. I've seen other oddities in 32-bit vs. 64-bit programs--e.g. my alt tab replacement (Joe), which is 32-bit, works great with 32-bit programs but cannot remove focus from 64-bit programs (IE, Windows Explorer, etc.). Ironically, very few of the programs I use are 64-bit, so I get by with the alt tab replacement. - Stephen ``` ## Geoffrey Lee, 2009-01-27 22:41 Subject: Re: Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista? Message-ID: <83d7aaa40901271441h47c98edepc16f5026de636134@mail.gmail.com> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/83d7aaa40901271441h47c98edepc16f5026de636134%40mail.gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20090127122456.0df531c3.stephen@exigencecorp.com> ``` On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Stephen Haberman wrote: > It kind of works on my Vista 64-bit system--I do not see the shell > extensions in the native Windows Explorer (which is 64 bit), but I do > see the shell extensions in an Explorer replacement I use (Xplorer2) > that is 32-bit. > > I've seen other oddities in 32-bit vs. 64-bit programs--e.g. my alt tab > replacement (Joe), which is 32-bit, works great with 32-bit programs > but cannot remove focus from 64-bit programs (IE, Windows Explorer, > etc.). Ironically, very few of the programs I use are 64-bit, so I get > by with the alt tab replacement. > > - Stephen > Thanks! It seems that 64-bit explorer.exe will not load 32-bit shell extensions. At least now I know I'm not going crazy. :) -Geoffrey Lee ``` ## Johannes Schindelin, 2009-01-27 22:51 Subject: Re: Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista? Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/alpine.DEB.1.00.0901272350360.3586%40pacific.mpi-cbg.de In-Reply-To: <83d7aaa40901271441h47c98edepc16f5026de636134@mail.gmail.com> ``` Hi, On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Geoffrey Lee wrote: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Stephen Haberman > wrote: > > It kind of works on my Vista 64-bit system--I do not see the shell > > extensions in the native Windows Explorer (which is 64 bit), but I do > > see the shell extensions in an Explorer replacement I use (Xplorer2) > > that is 32-bit. > > > > I've seen other oddities in 32-bit vs. 64-bit programs--e.g. my alt tab > > replacement (Joe), which is 32-bit, works great with 32-bit programs > > but cannot remove focus from 64-bit programs (IE, Windows Explorer, > > etc.). Ironically, very few of the programs I use are 64-bit, so I get > > by with the alt tab replacement. > > > > - Stephen > > > > Thanks! It seems that 64-bit explorer.exe will not load 32-bit shell > extensions. At least now I know I'm not going crazy. :) How could it? You cannot have 32-bit code and 64-bit code running in the same process. At least not with x86_64 (AFAIK). Ciao, Dscho ``` ## Steven Noonan, 2009-01-27 23:01 Subject: Re: Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista? Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/f488382f0901271501y2cf6dd84idc96e14aea1693e5%40mail.gmail.com In-Reply-To: ``` On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Johannes Schindelin wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Geoffrey Lee wrote: > >> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Stephen Haberman >> wrote: >> > It kind of works on my Vista 64-bit system--I do not see the shell >> > extensions in the native Windows Explorer (which is 64 bit), but I do >> > see the shell extensions in an Explorer replacement I use (Xplorer2) >> > that is 32-bit. >> > >> > I've seen other oddities in 32-bit vs. 64-bit programs--e.g. my alt tab >> > replacement (Joe), which is 32-bit, works great with 32-bit programs >> > but cannot remove focus from 64-bit programs (IE, Windows Explorer, >> > etc.). Ironically, very few of the programs I use are 64-bit, so I get >> > by with the alt tab replacement. >> > >> > - Stephen >> > >> >> Thanks! It seems that 64-bit explorer.exe will not load 32-bit shell >> extensions. At least now I know I'm not going crazy. :) > > How could it? You cannot have 32-bit code and 64-bit code running in the > same process. At least not with x86_64 (AFAIK). > Correct, this is also my biggest gripe with how x86_64 is implemented. Thank you, AMD! - Steven ``` ## Johannes Schindelin, 2009-01-27 23:11 Subject: Re: Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista? Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/alpine.DEB.1.00.0901280010530.3586%40pacific.mpi-cbg.de In-Reply-To: ``` Hi, On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Steven Noonan wrote: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Johannes Schindelin > wrote: > > > > On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Geoffrey Lee wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Stephen Haberman > >> wrote: > >> > It kind of works on my Vista 64-bit system--I do not see the shell > >> > extensions in the native Windows Explorer (which is 64 bit), but I > >> > do see the shell extensions in an Explorer replacement I use > >> > (Xplorer2) that is 32-bit. > >> > > >> > I've seen other oddities in 32-bit vs. 64-bit programs--e.g. my alt > >> > tab replacement (Joe), which is 32-bit, works great with 32-bit > >> > programs but cannot remove focus from 64-bit programs (IE, Windows > >> > Explorer, etc.). Ironically, very few of the programs I use are > >> > 64-bit, so I get by with the alt tab replacement. > >> > >> Thanks! It seems that 64-bit explorer.exe will not load 32-bit shell > >> extensions. At least now I know I'm not going crazy. :) > > > > How could it? You cannot have 32-bit code and 64-bit code running in the > > same process. At least not with x86_64 (AFAIK). > > Correct, this is also my biggest gripe with how x86_64 is implemented. > Thank you, AMD! Come on, at least it is not Itanium. Ciao, Dscho ``` ## Steven Noonan, 2009-01-27 23:15 Subject: Re: Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista? Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/f488382f0901271515j210aa372hda77fe38dd450e98%40mail.gmail.com In-Reply-To: ``` On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Johannes Schindelin wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Steven Noonan wrote: > >> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Johannes Schindelin >> wrote: >> > >> > On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Geoffrey Lee wrote: >> > >> >> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Stephen Haberman >> >> wrote: >> >> > It kind of works on my Vista 64-bit system--I do not see the shell >> >> > extensions in the native Windows Explorer (which is 64 bit), but I >> >> > do see the shell extensions in an Explorer replacement I use >> >> > (Xplorer2) that is 32-bit. >> >> > >> >> > I've seen other oddities in 32-bit vs. 64-bit programs--e.g. my alt >> >> > tab replacement (Joe), which is 32-bit, works great with 32-bit >> >> > programs but cannot remove focus from 64-bit programs (IE, Windows >> >> > Explorer, etc.). Ironically, very few of the programs I use are >> >> > 64-bit, so I get by with the alt tab replacement. >> >> >> >> Thanks! It seems that 64-bit explorer.exe will not load 32-bit shell >> >> extensions. At least now I know I'm not going crazy. :) >> > >> > How could it? You cannot have 32-bit code and 64-bit code running in the >> > same process. At least not with x86_64 (AFAIK). >> >> Correct, this is also my biggest gripe with how x86_64 is implemented. >> Thank you, AMD! > > Come on, at least it is not Itanium. > True, but x86_64 had so much potential, and Itanium was doomed from the start. http://www.emulators.com/docs/nx05_vx64.htm -- This guy has it right. - Steven ``` ## Geoffrey Lee, 2009-01-27 23:59 Subject: Re: Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista? Message-ID: <83d7aaa40901271559y2767c6aes3fbecb28a88f4759@mail.gmail.com> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/83d7aaa40901271559y2767c6aes3fbecb28a88f4759%40mail.gmail.com In-Reply-To: ``` On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Johannes Schindelin wrote: > How could it? You cannot have 32-bit code and 64-bit code running in the > same process. At least not with x86_64 (AFAIK). Yeah it seems obvious now, but I had gotten used to 64-bit Windows being able to run 32-bit apps so seamlessly that I didn't think about it. -Geoffrey Lee ```