{"thread":{"id":"17388","subject":"Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista?","startedAt":"2009-01-27T09:30:38Z","lastAt":"2009-01-27T23:59:01Z","messageCount":8,"participants":["Geoffrey Lee","Stephen Haberman","Johannes Schindelin","Steven Noonan"],"isPatch":false,"patchVersion":null,"patchTotal":null},"messages":[{"id":"102098","messageId":"83d7aaa40901270130g3bebb3d6we4839b567f310e46@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"17388","inReplyTo":null,"subject":"Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista?","fromName":"Geoffrey Lee","fromEmail":"geoffreyj.lee@gmail.com","sentAt":"2009-01-27T09:30:38Z","receivedAt":"2009-01-27T09:30:38Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"geoffreyj.lee@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/eda7290effb2fe936a54951db47d049adf71d6bd41b70c56dd9dedc8f3327c39?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"I'm trying to develop for TortoiseGit on a 64-bit Vista SP1 system,\nbut I'm having trouble registering the shell extensions with explorer.\nI'm hoping somebody else here who has access to 64-bit Vista can tell\nme if TortoiseGit runs on their machine? I want to find out if this\nproblem is only affecting my machine.\n\nhttp://code.google.com/p/tortoisegit/\n\n-Geoffrey Lee\n"},{"id":"102152","messageId":"20090127122456.0df531c3.stephen@exigencecorp.com","threadId":"17388","inReplyTo":"83d7aaa40901270130g3bebb3d6we4839b567f310e46@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista?","fromName":"Stephen Haberman","fromEmail":"stephen@exigencecorp.com","sentAt":"2009-01-27T18:24:56Z","receivedAt":"2009-01-27T18:24:56Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"stephen@exigencecorp.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/23b93ad70a06ce53505f17ddba65176edbcfb6588e7a4c1a2dca04aaf0a6aff1?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"\n> I'm trying to develop for TortoiseGit on a 64-bit Vista SP1 system,\n> but I'm having trouble registering the shell extensions with explorer.\n> I'm hoping somebody else here who has access to 64-bit Vista can tell\n> me if TortoiseGit runs on their machine?\n\nIt kind of works on my Vista 64-bit system--I do not see the shell\nextensions in the native Windows Explorer (which is 64 bit), but I do\nsee the shell extensions in an Explorer replacement I use (Xplorer2)\nthat is 32-bit.\n\nI've seen other oddities in 32-bit vs. 64-bit programs--e.g. my alt tab\nreplacement (Joe), which is 32-bit, works great with 32-bit programs\nbut cannot remove focus from 64-bit programs (IE, Windows Explorer,\netc.). Ironically, very few of the programs I use are 64-bit, so I get\nby with the alt tab replacement.\n\n- Stephen\n"},{"id":"102182","messageId":"83d7aaa40901271441h47c98edepc16f5026de636134@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"17388","inReplyTo":"20090127122456.0df531c3.stephen@exigencecorp.com","subject":"Re: Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista?","fromName":"Geoffrey Lee","fromEmail":"geoffreyj.lee@gmail.com","sentAt":"2009-01-27T22:41:04Z","receivedAt":"2009-01-27T22:41:04Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"geoffreyj.lee@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/eda7290effb2fe936a54951db47d049adf71d6bd41b70c56dd9dedc8f3327c39?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Stephen Haberman\n wrote:\n> It kind of works on my Vista 64-bit system--I do not see the shell\n> extensions in the native Windows Explorer (which is 64 bit), but I do\n> see the shell extensions in an Explorer replacement I use (Xplorer2)\n> that is 32-bit.\n>\n> I've seen other oddities in 32-bit vs. 64-bit programs--e.g. my alt tab\n> replacement (Joe), which is 32-bit, works great with 32-bit programs\n> but cannot remove focus from 64-bit programs (IE, Windows Explorer,\n> etc.). Ironically, very few of the programs I use are 64-bit, so I get\n> by with the alt tab replacement.\n>\n> - Stephen\n>\n\nThanks! It seems that 64-bit explorer.exe will not load 32-bit shell\nextensions. At least now I know I'm not going crazy. :)\n\n-Geoffrey Lee\n"},{"id":"102185","messageId":"alpine.DEB.1.00.0901272350360.3586@pacific.mpi-cbg.de","threadId":"17388","inReplyTo":"83d7aaa40901271441h47c98edepc16f5026de636134@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista?","fromName":"Johannes Schindelin","fromEmail":"johannes.schindelin@gmx.de","sentAt":"2009-01-27T22:51:13Z","receivedAt":"2009-01-27T22:51:13Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"johannes.schindelin@gmx.de","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/127790?v=4"},"body":"Hi,\n\nOn Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Geoffrey Lee wrote:\n\n> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Stephen Haberman\n> wrote:\n> > It kind of works on my Vista 64-bit system--I do not see the shell\n> > extensions in the native Windows Explorer (which is 64 bit), but I do\n> > see the shell extensions in an Explorer replacement I use (Xplorer2)\n> > that is 32-bit.\n> >\n> > I've seen other oddities in 32-bit vs. 64-bit programs--e.g. my alt tab\n> > replacement (Joe), which is 32-bit, works great with 32-bit programs\n> > but cannot remove focus from 64-bit programs (IE, Windows Explorer,\n> > etc.). Ironically, very few of the programs I use are 64-bit, so I get\n> > by with the alt tab replacement.\n> >\n> > - Stephen\n> >\n> \n> Thanks! It seems that 64-bit explorer.exe will not load 32-bit shell\n> extensions. At least now I know I'm not going crazy. :)\n\nHow could it? You cannot have 32-bit code and 64-bit code running in the \nsame process. At least not with x86_64 (AFAIK).\n\nCiao,\nDscho\n"},{"id":"102189","messageId":"f488382f0901271501y2cf6dd84idc96e14aea1693e5@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"17388","inReplyTo":"alpine.DEB.1.00.0901272350360.3586@pacific.mpi-cbg.de","subject":"Re: Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista?","fromName":"Steven Noonan","fromEmail":"steven@uplinklabs.net","sentAt":"2009-01-27T23:01:06Z","receivedAt":"2009-01-27T23:01:06Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"steven@uplinklabs.net","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/b0cd397a10638433f76e084531aa0af3bef85f8fdb59b1ebe2ddaf168cd100e9?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Johannes Schindelin\n wrote:\n> Hi,\n>\n> On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Geoffrey Lee wrote:\n>\n>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Stephen Haberman\n>> wrote:\n>> > It kind of works on my Vista 64-bit system--I do not see the shell\n>> > extensions in the native Windows Explorer (which is 64 bit), but I do\n>> > see the shell extensions in an Explorer replacement I use (Xplorer2)\n>> > that is 32-bit.\n>> >\n>> > I've seen other oddities in 32-bit vs. 64-bit programs--e.g. my alt tab\n>> > replacement (Joe), which is 32-bit, works great with 32-bit programs\n>> > but cannot remove focus from 64-bit programs (IE, Windows Explorer,\n>> > etc.). Ironically, very few of the programs I use are 64-bit, so I get\n>> > by with the alt tab replacement.\n>> >\n>> > - Stephen\n>> >\n>>\n>> Thanks! It seems that 64-bit explorer.exe will not load 32-bit shell\n>> extensions. At least now I know I'm not going crazy. :)\n>\n> How could it? You cannot have 32-bit code and 64-bit code running in the\n> same process. At least not with x86_64 (AFAIK).\n>\n\nCorrect, this is also my biggest gripe with how x86_64 is implemented.\nThank you, AMD!\n\n- Steven\n"},{"id":"102196","messageId":"alpine.DEB.1.00.0901280010530.3586@pacific.mpi-cbg.de","threadId":"17388","inReplyTo":"f488382f0901271501y2cf6dd84idc96e14aea1693e5@mail.gmail.com","subject":"Re: Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista?","fromName":"Johannes Schindelin","fromEmail":"johannes.schindelin@gmx.de","sentAt":"2009-01-27T23:11:34Z","receivedAt":"2009-01-27T23:11:34Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"johannes.schindelin@gmx.de","avatar":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/127790?v=4"},"body":"Hi,\n\nOn Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Steven Noonan wrote:\n\n> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Johannes Schindelin\n> wrote:\n> >\n> > On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Geoffrey Lee wrote:\n> >\n> >> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Stephen Haberman\n> >> wrote:\n> >> > It kind of works on my Vista 64-bit system--I do not see the shell \n> >> > extensions in the native Windows Explorer (which is 64 bit), but I \n> >> > do see the shell extensions in an Explorer replacement I use \n> >> > (Xplorer2) that is 32-bit.\n> >> >\n> >> > I've seen other oddities in 32-bit vs. 64-bit programs--e.g. my alt \n> >> > tab replacement (Joe), which is 32-bit, works great with 32-bit \n> >> > programs but cannot remove focus from 64-bit programs (IE, Windows \n> >> > Explorer, etc.). Ironically, very few of the programs I use are \n> >> > 64-bit, so I get by with the alt tab replacement.\n> >>\n> >> Thanks! It seems that 64-bit explorer.exe will not load 32-bit shell \n> >> extensions. At least now I know I'm not going crazy. :)\n> >\n> > How could it? You cannot have 32-bit code and 64-bit code running in the\n> > same process. At least not with x86_64 (AFAIK).\n> \n> Correct, this is also my biggest gripe with how x86_64 is implemented.\n> Thank you, AMD!\n\nCome on, at least it is not Itanium.\n\nCiao,\nDscho\n"},{"id":"102197","messageId":"f488382f0901271515j210aa372hda77fe38dd450e98@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"17388","inReplyTo":"alpine.DEB.1.00.0901280010530.3586@pacific.mpi-cbg.de","subject":"Re: Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista?","fromName":"Steven Noonan","fromEmail":"steven@uplinklabs.net","sentAt":"2009-01-27T23:15:11Z","receivedAt":"2009-01-27T23:15:11Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"steven@uplinklabs.net","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/b0cd397a10638433f76e084531aa0af3bef85f8fdb59b1ebe2ddaf168cd100e9?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Johannes Schindelin\n wrote:\n> Hi,\n>\n> On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Steven Noonan wrote:\n>\n>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Johannes Schindelin\n>> wrote:\n>> >\n>> > On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Geoffrey Lee wrote:\n>> >\n>> >> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Stephen Haberman\n>> >> wrote:\n>> >> > It kind of works on my Vista 64-bit system--I do not see the shell\n>> >> > extensions in the native Windows Explorer (which is 64 bit), but I\n>> >> > do see the shell extensions in an Explorer replacement I use\n>> >> > (Xplorer2) that is 32-bit.\n>> >> >\n>> >> > I've seen other oddities in 32-bit vs. 64-bit programs--e.g. my alt\n>> >> > tab replacement (Joe), which is 32-bit, works great with 32-bit\n>> >> > programs but cannot remove focus from 64-bit programs (IE, Windows\n>> >> > Explorer, etc.). Ironically, very few of the programs I use are\n>> >> > 64-bit, so I get by with the alt tab replacement.\n>> >>\n>> >> Thanks! It seems that 64-bit explorer.exe will not load 32-bit shell\n>> >> extensions. At least now I know I'm not going crazy. :)\n>> >\n>> > How could it? You cannot have 32-bit code and 64-bit code running in the\n>> > same process. At least not with x86_64 (AFAIK).\n>>\n>> Correct, this is also my biggest gripe with how x86_64 is implemented.\n>> Thank you, AMD!\n>\n> Come on, at least it is not Itanium.\n>\nTrue, but x86_64 had so much potential, and Itanium was doomed from the start.\n\nhttp://www.emulators.com/docs/nx05_vx64.htm -- This guy has it right.\n\n- Steven\n"},{"id":"102202","messageId":"83d7aaa40901271559y2767c6aes3fbecb28a88f4759@mail.gmail.com","threadId":"17388","inReplyTo":"alpine.DEB.1.00.0901272350360.3586@pacific.mpi-cbg.de","subject":"Re: Anyone have access to 64-bit Vista?","fromName":"Geoffrey Lee","fromEmail":"geoffreyj.lee@gmail.com","sentAt":"2009-01-27T23:59:01Z","receivedAt":"2009-01-27T23:59:01Z","isPatch":false,"sender":{"key":"geoffreyj.lee@gmail.com","avatar":"https://gravatar.com/avatar/eda7290effb2fe936a54951db47d049adf71d6bd41b70c56dd9dedc8f3327c39?d=mp&s=160"},"body":"On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Johannes Schindelin\n wrote:\n> How could it? You cannot have 32-bit code and 64-bit code running in the\n> same process. At least not with x86_64 (AFAIK).\n\nYeah it seems obvious now, but I had gotten used to 64-bit Windows\nbeing able to run 32-bit apps so seamlessly that I didn't think about\nit.\n\n-Geoffrey Lee\n"}]}