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Re: [PATCH 1/6] t0018: switch default branch name to main

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Date
Aug 28, 2025, 16:49 UTC
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Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com> writes:
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>>> These tests use "trunk" as the default branch name but the exact
>>> name of the branch is incidental to testing if the advice message
>>> includes it. ...
>> Would't we be better prepared for a future where advice messages may
>> start including the current branch name, though, if we made sure we
>> are on the branch whose name is known?
>
> The advice message does include the current branch name, that's why
> the test needs to be updated when we change that name from "trunk" to
> "main". The sentence above is trying to say that it does not matter
> what that name is, we just need to check it appears in the advice
> message.
That makes 100% sense.
> I could see an argument for the tests not depending on git's
> default branch name if it changed frequently but realistically we're
> unlikely to change in again in the near future.

A test that automatically adjusts to the then-current default so that we do not have to worry about what it is is much better than a test that needs constant maintenance every 10 years. A test that uses one fixed name is slightly worse than auto-adjusting one, but is still far better as it is maintenance-free.

Hardwiring a name the test uses does have one distinct advantage, i.e., it serves as a documentation that the test vector depends on the branch name, making it clear where the thing that the test expects comes from.

> If we did use a different name in the tests it is just as likely
> to cause objections and need to be changed as git's default name
> so I'm not sure it gains us much.

I do not quite understand. Do you mean in 20 years some animal rights activists object that 'trunk' is offensive to elephants and we will be forced to change? As I do not see the difference between 'main' and 'trunk' about how likely either of them get such complaint against, I can live with hardwiring the branch name used in the test 'main', but then 'trunk' would equally work well, so unless there are other things the patch changes, I do not quite see much point in this patch.

[Footnote]

By the way, I do appreciate the "let's switch the default as promised at the major version boundary", the primary theme of this topic. I think we have done enough prep work to ensure that the result would work without disruption with existing projects by ensuring that (1) existing user repositories can keep working, as this is only about the initial branch name, (2) existing project repositories cloned anew will keep working as before, as we follow what the upstream does.

One thing that is missing is probably a way to remotely create a symref (or repoint one). As it would break existing users if an upstream suddenly switches its 'master' to 'main', the second best thing to do is to ensure that they always point at the same commit, and the natural way to do so is to

    $ git symbolic-ref refs/heads/main refs/heads/master

but we cannot do so remotely. I've been doing the third best thing since late November 2021, which is to push to both at the same time, which is ugly but https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/git/git.git/ and other mirrors may tell you that both are available.

All other mirrors do not have CI attached to them, and they have been running with both 'main' and 'master' pointing at the same commit for quite some time, but https://github.com/git/git/ does not have 'main'; I attempted back when I arranged to do the "push to both" back in November 2021, but it caused two CI jobs on 'master' and 'main' run on the identical sources simultanously, wasting resources, every time the topics graduated, so I stopped doing so.

Perhaps tweaking the .github/workflows/main.yml file a bit and explicitly excluding either one of these two identical branches would be what it takes, but it would probably be a multi-step process, to (1) tell it to ignore the 'main' branch, (2) start pushing to 'main' in addition to 'master', and then finally (3) flip the CI config to tell it to ignore the 'master' branch instead.

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  1. 0/6 breaking changes: switch default initial branch name to "main"Phillip Wood, Aug 27, 2025
  2. 1/6 t0018: switch default branch name to mainPhillip Wood, Aug 27, 2025
  3. Junio C HamanoAug 27, 2025
  4. Phillip WoodAug 28, 2025
  5. Junio C HamanoAug 28, 2025
  6. brian m. carlsonAug 28, 2025
  7. 3/6 t9902: switch default branch name to mainPhillip Wood, Aug 27, 2025
  8. 2/6 t4013: switch default branch name to mainPhillip Wood, Aug 27, 2025
  9. 4/6 t0613: stop setting default initial branchPhillip Wood, Aug 27, 2025
  10. Junio C HamanoAug 27, 2025
  11. 5/6 t1403: remove dependency on GIT_TEST_DEFAULT_INITIAL_BRANCH_NAMEPhillip Wood, Aug 27, 2025
  12. 6/6 breaking-changes: switch default branch to mainPhillip Wood, Aug 27, 2025
  13. Junio C HamanoAug 27, 2025
  14. Patrick SteinhardtSep 2, 2025
  15. Phillip WoodSep 2, 2025
  16. Patrick SteinhardtSep 3, 2025
  17. Phillip WoodSep 3, 2025
  18. Patrick SteinhardtSep 3, 2025
  19. Junio C HamanoSep 3, 2025
  20. Patrick SteinhardtSep 4, 2025
  21. Phillip WoodSep 4, 2025
  22. Patrick SteinhardtSep 5, 2025
  23. Phillip WoodSep 4, 2025
  24. Johannes SchindelinAug 28, 2025
  25. 0/4 breaking changes: switch default initial branch name to "main"Phillip Wood, Sep 4, 2025
  26. 1/4 breaking-changes: switch default branch to mainPhillip Wood, Sep 4, 2025
  27. Junio C HamanoSep 4, 2025
  28. Phillip WoodSep 5, 2025
  29. Junio C HamanoSep 5, 2025
  30. 3/4 t9902: switch default branch name to mainPhillip Wood, Sep 4, 2025
  31. Junio C HamanoSep 4, 2025
  32. Phillip WoodSep 5, 2025
  33. Patrick SteinhardtSep 5, 2025
  34. Phillip WoodSep 9, 2025
  35. 2/4 t4013: switch default branch name to mainPhillip Wood, Sep 4, 2025
  36. 4/4 t0613: stop setting default initial branchPhillip Wood, Sep 4, 2025
  37. Junio C HamanoSep 4, 2025
  38. Phillip WoodSep 5, 2025
  39. Junio C HamanoSep 4, 2025
  40. Phillip WoodSep 4, 2025
  41. 0/4 breaking changes: switch default initial branch name to "main"Phillip Wood, Sep 10, 2025
  42. 1/4 breaking-changes: switch default branch to mainPhillip Wood, Sep 10, 2025
  43. 2/4 t4013: switch default branch name to mainPhillip Wood, Sep 10, 2025
  44. 3/4 t9902: switch default branch name to mainPhillip Wood, Sep 10, 2025
  45. 4/4 t0613: stop setting default initial branchPhillip Wood, Sep 10, 2025
  46. Junio C HamanoSep 10, 2025
  47. Junio C HamanoSep 17, 2025
  48. Kristoffer HaugsbakkSep 17, 2025
  49. Junio C HamanoSep 17, 2025
  50. Phillip WoodSep 17, 2025
  51. Junio C HamanoSep 17, 2025
  52. Junio C HamanoSep 17, 2025
  53. Phillip WoodSep 18, 2025
  54. 5/4 initial branch: give hints after switching the default nameJunio C Hamano, Sep 17, 2025
  55. Phillip WoodSep 18, 2025
  56. Junio C HamanoSep 18, 2025

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