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Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] CodingGuidelines: hint why we value clearly written log messages

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Date
Apr 14, 2022, 06:51 UTC
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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:
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> Emily Shaffer <emilyshaffer@google.com> writes:
>
>>> + - Log messages to explain your changes are as important as the
>>> +   changes themselves.  Clearly written code and in-code comments
>>> +   explain how the code works and what is assumed from the surrounding
>>> +   context.  The log messages explain what the changes wanted to
>>> +   achieve and why the changes were necessary (more on this in the
>>> +   accompanying SubmittingPatches document).
>>> +
>>
>> One thing not listed here, that I often hope to find from the commit
>> message (and don't), is "why we did it this way instead of <other way>".
>> I am not sure how to phrase it in this document, though. Maybe:
>>
>>   The log messages explain what the changes wanted to achieve, any
>>   decisions that were made between alternative approaches, and why the
>>   changes were necessary (more on this in blah blah)
>>
>> Or maybe "...whether any alternative approaches were considered..." fits
>> the form of the surrounding sentence better.
>
> Quite valid observation.
>
> Documentation/SubmittingPatches::meaningful-message makes a note on
> these points, and the above may want to be more aligned to them.
>
> Patches welcome, as these have long been merged to 'master/main'.

Another thing. If you (not Emily, but figuratively) haven't watched Victoria's talk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qLtKx9S9a8 on the topic of clearly written commits, you should drop everything you are doing and go watch it.

And with what we learn from it, we may be able to rewrite this part of the documentation much more clearly.

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Message 19 of 28 in “[RFC] Contributor doc: more on the proposed log message”
  1. Junio C HamanoJan 23, 2022
  2. brian m. carlsonJan 23, 2022
  3. Kaartic SivaraamJan 26, 2022
  4. 0/3 contributor doc update around log messagesJunio C Hamano, Jan 26, 2022
  5. 1/3 SubmittingPatches: write problem statement in the log in the present tenseJunio C Hamano, Jan 26, 2022
  6. 2/3 CodingGuidelines: hint why we value clearly written log messagesJunio C Hamano, Jan 26, 2022
  7. Eric SunshineJan 27, 2022
  8. Junio C HamanoJan 27, 2022
  9. 3/3 SubmittingPatches: explain why we care about log messagesJunio C Hamano, Jan 26, 2022
  10. 0/3 contributor doc update around log messagesJunio C Hamano, Jan 27, 2022
  11. Emily ShafferMar 4, 2022
  12. 1/3 SubmittingPatches: write problem statement in the log in the present tenseJunio C Hamano, Jan 27, 2022
  13. Emily ShafferMar 3, 2022
  14. Junio C HamanoMar 4, 2022
  15. Emily ShafferMar 4, 2022
  16. 2/3 CodingGuidelines: hint why we value clearly written log messagesJunio C Hamano, Jan 27, 2022
  17. Emily ShafferMar 4, 2022
  18. Junio C HamanoMar 4, 2022
  19. Junio C HamanoApr 14, 2022
  20. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonApr 14, 2022
  21. Emily ShafferApr 19, 2022
  22. Junio C HamanoApr 20, 2022
  23. 3/3 SubmittingPatches: explain why we care about log messagesJunio C Hamano, Jan 27, 2022
  24. Emily ShafferMar 4, 2022
  25. Junio C HamanoMar 4, 2022
  26. log messages > comments (was: [PATCH v3 3/3] SubmittingPatches: explain why we care about log messages)Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Mar 4, 2022
  27. Junio C HamanoMar 4, 2022
  28. Junio C HamanoMar 4, 2022

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