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Re: [FAQ?] Rationale for git's way to manage the index

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Matthieu Moy <matthieu.moy@imag.fr>
Date
May 6, 2007, 17:34 UTC
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Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> writes:
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> Hi,
>
> On Sun, 6 May 2007, Matthieu Moy wrote:
>
>> [...]
>>
>> % git satus -a
>> % git commit -a -m "..."
>> 
>> In the former case, I have more commands to type, and in the second
>> case, I loose part of the stat-cache benefit: If I run "git status -a"
>> twice, the second run will actually diff all the files touched since
>> the last run, since "git status -a" actually updated a temporary
>> index, and discarded it afterwards, so it doesn't update the stat
>> information in the index (while "git status" would have).
>
> Have you tried "git status" _without_ "-a"?

Reading my message (including the last 5 words of the sentence you're quoting) would have told you that ;-).

>> In both cases, I can't really see the benefit.
>
> The benefit is a clear distinguishing between DWIM and low level. The 
> index contains _exactly_ what you told it to contain. 

In other systems, commit commits _exactly_ the content of files on disk. And most people seem happy with that.

> By forcing users to use "-a" with "git commit",
Does this mean that the normal way to use "commit" is to use "-a"?
> you make it clear that a separate update steo is involved,

Well, with those kind of arguments, I could have my web browser not do DNS resolution for me, because it would make it clear that a separate step from HTTP request is involved. Still, this low-level thing brings no benefit to the user, and I know no web browser forcing the user to make this distinction.

> and if you made an error (which you see from the file list), you can
> abort, and start over with the original index.
You don't necessarily see your error from the file list:
% vi foo.c
% git add foo.c
% vi foo.c
% git commit -m foo
[...]
 create mode 100644 foo.c
%

This commited the old content of foo.c, while I hardly see any scenario where this is the expected behavior.

Then, being able to repare the error if I made it is interesting, but I don't get the reason why the error could not just be avoided.

Well, indeed, I just found a thread talking about this:
  http://lists-archives.org/git/196050-making-git-commit-to-mean-git-commit-a.html
I'll go through it, I might understand better after that ;-).
Thanks,
-- 
Matthieu
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Message 3 of 71 in “[FAQ?] Rationale for git's way to manage the index”
  1. Matthieu MoyMay 6, 2007
  2. Johannes SchindelinMay 6, 2007
  3. Matthieu MoyMay 6, 2007
  4. Junio C HamanoMay 6, 2007
  5. Petr BaudisMay 9, 2007
  6. Johannes SchindelinMay 9, 2007
  7. git-commit: Reformat log messages provided on commandlinePetr Baudis, May 9, 2007
  8. Matthieu MoyMay 9, 2007
  9. Petr BaudisMay 9, 2007
  10. Matthieu MoyMay 9, 2007
  11. Johannes SchindelinMay 9, 2007
  12. Junio C HamanoMay 10, 2007
  13. Jakub NarebskiMay 12, 2007
  14. Dana HowMay 6, 2007
  15. Johannes SchindelinMay 6, 2007
  16. Linus TorvaldsMay 6, 2007
  17. Matthieu MoyMay 6, 2007
  18. Linus TorvaldsMay 6, 2007
  19. Julian PhillipsMay 6, 2007
  20. Karl HasselströmMay 7, 2007
  21. Shawn O. PearceMay 8, 2007
  22. Johannes SixtMay 8, 2007
  23. Karl HasselströmMay 8, 2007
  24. J. Bruce FieldsMay 8, 2007
  25. Karl HasselströmMay 8, 2007
  26. J. Bruce FieldsMay 9, 2007
  27. Johannes SchindelinMay 9, 2007
  28. Karl HasselströmMay 8, 2007
  29. Shawn O. PearceMay 8, 2007
  30. Johannes SchindelinMay 6, 2007
  31. Matthieu MoyMay 7, 2007
  32. Johannes SchindelinMay 7, 2007
  33. Petr BaudisMay 9, 2007
  34. Martin LanghoffMay 8, 2007
  35. Linus TorvaldsMay 8, 2007
  36. Martin LanghoffMay 8, 2007
  37. Petr BaudisMay 9, 2007
  38. Linus TorvaldsMay 9, 2007
  39. Carl WorthMay 9, 2007
  40. Jakub NarebskiMay 11, 2007
  41. Dana HowMay 9, 2007
  42. J. Bruce FieldsMay 9, 2007
  43. Petr BaudisMay 9, 2007
  44. J. Bruce FieldsMay 9, 2007
  45. Daniel BarkalowMay 9, 2007
  46. Linus TorvaldsMay 9, 2007
  47. Junio C HamanoMay 10, 2007
  48. Steven GrimmMay 10, 2007
  49. Linus TorvaldsMay 10, 2007
  50. Matthieu MoyMay 10, 2007
  51. Shawn O. PearceMay 10, 2007
  52. Petr BaudisMay 10, 2007
  53. Johannes SchindelinMay 8, 2007
  54. David KågedalMay 15, 2007
  55. Johannes SchindelinMay 15, 2007
  56. Matthieu MoyMay 9, 2007
  57. Guilhem BonnefilleMay 7, 2007
  58. Karl HasselströmMay 7, 2007
  59. David KastrupMay 7, 2007
  60. Johannes SchindelinMay 7, 2007
  61. Junio C HamanoMay 7, 2007
  62. Petr BaudisMay 9, 2007
  63. Daniel BarkalowMay 7, 2007
  64. David KågedalMay 15, 2007
  65. Karl HasselströmMay 15, 2007
  66. Jakub NarebskiMay 11, 2007
  67. Junio C HamanoMay 11, 2007
  68. Jakub NarebskiMay 11, 2007
  69. Junio C HamanoMay 12, 2007
  70. Jakub NarebskiMay 12, 2007
  71. Jakub NarebskiMay 12, 2007

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