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Re: Subversion developer: svn is for dumb people

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APAndy Parkins <andyparkins@gmail.com>
Date
Oct 19, 2007, 12:10 UTC
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Steven Grimm wrote:
> find code reviews *harder* in a centralized system because you end up

I think I'd argue that git actually reduces the problems of patchbombs (which is a code-review problem).

Those who are going to patchbomb will do it whatever their VCS choice (and I'm not entirely convinced that patchbombs are as bad as is made out in that article). With a centralised VCS the patch almost has to be one giant diff - very hard to read and review. Git, on the other hand, allows the patchbomber to work alone crafting not only beautiful code, but a beautiful patch series. The bomb can be easy to review, easy to reject, and easy to modify. It becomes far more likely that the code can be used in some way.

I guarantee that the only reason I ever contributed anything to git itself was because the bureaucracy line is so low - and it is low because of git.

Key features for a DVCS from a newbie point of view:
 - Making a fool of yourself can be done in private rather than in public.
   I have loads of branches in my git repository that I will never submit,
   because they were the beginnings of ideas that didn't pan out (and I'm 
   lazy)
 - You don't need _any_ permission to fork/branch.
 - You can work away on your feature without worrying too much that time
   has passed and the main project has moved on and you aren't keeping up
   to date.  I've got a set of patches for git (the REF_PATHS stuff) that I
   started a year ago.  I recently rebased it and brought it up to date.
   It's still not in mainline, but I'm not panicking, nor do I have to
   abandon it because it's so easy to catch up whenever I want to.
 - I can work on two features simultaneously.  If I have two ideas - crazy
   and safe, both independent, I can work on both without having to mix
   them for the day when I submit.  This makes it a lot easier to keep them
   on the go, and a lot easier for the maintainer to decide what goes in and
   what doesn't.
 - The ability to craft a log messages that are kept locally and easily
   edited before submission goes a long way to helping cross the
   brave-enough-to-submit barrier.  Presenting new code as an unknown
   developer on a project is (I think) quite a stressful thing.  Git let's
   you feel as prepared as you want before you take that leap into having
   your code ripped apart.

In short: those pro-centralised arguments are nonsense. Even if they weren't the advantages of DVCS heavily outweigh the advantages of CVCS.

Andy
-- 
Dr Andy Parkins, M Eng (hons), MIET
andyparkins@gmail.com
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  1. Steven GrimmOct 18, 2007
  2. David BrownOct 18, 2007
  3. Jeff KingOct 18, 2007
  4. Sam VilainOct 18, 2007
  5. Pierre HabouzitOct 19, 2007
  6. Johannes SchindelinOct 19, 2007
  7. Pierre HabouzitOct 19, 2007
  8. Andy ParkinsOct 19, 2007

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