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Re: [PATCH 0/4] fetch: add --must-have and remote.*.mustHave

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Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
Date
Apr 9, 2026, 12:53 UTC
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On 4/8/2026 2:59 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
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> "Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> Based on my understanding, the '--negotiation-tip' option is close but not
>> quite what I want. I could have the client only advertise 'release' and
>> 'main' and never advertise any user branches. But then we'd download all
>> content from each user branch every time it updates. Perhaps this would
>> happen even with opportunistic inclusion of more haves, but I'd like to
>> explore this area more.
>>
>> There's also an issue that the '--negotiation-tip' feature doesn't seem to
>> have a config key that enables it without CLI arguments. This is something
>> that we could consider independently.
>> ...
>> Big picture questions to think about:
>>
>>  * Is this a valuable addition to the fetch negotiation?
>>  * Is the interaction between --must-have and --negotiation-tip correct?
>>  * Is the "must have" name sensical to users? I expect that this only
>>    matters to experts, but I'm open to better names that could be more
>>    self-documenting.
>>  * Should we add a similar config key for --negotiation-tip?
> 
> Just like you, I hate the name "must have", but stepping back a bit,
> would it work if we add a single boolean option that says "use the
> negotiation tips as the primary source of 'have's you'd send, but
> unlike the way how the original negotiation-tip feature worked
> without this bit enabled, which did not send anything other than the
> ones reachable by negotiation tips, do advertise opportunistically
> other tips", essentially turning the existing negotiation-tips
> feature into your must-have feature?  You could even call the option
> "--negotiate-better(=(yes|no))" or something, perhaps?

I like this line of thought. You essentially want to use the existing scaffolding of the --negotiate-tip option but change it from being a _maximum set_ to being a _minimum set_.

## Considering --negotiation-tip-mode=<mode>

With that in mind, we could have an option like --negotiation-tip-mode that takes one of a few options. Here are some word choices that I immediately thought about:

* maximum|minimum: Are these sets a maximum set to choose from or a
		   minimum set to include?
* restrict|include: Are we restricting the haves to this set, or are
 		    we including these tips by default?
* v1|v2: Use numerical versions to indicate the mode without commentary
	 so it could be extended in the future to v3 or more.

None of these jump out as a clear winner in my head. I'm interested in more exploration of this space before rerolling.

## To mix modes, or not to mix modes?

One downside of this approach is that it disables the ability to use both modes, at least in its most obvious implementation. What if someone wants to force a minimum set of wants but also wants to focus the set of additional wants to a specific ref space?

Theoretically, we could implement the option to toggle with multiple options, using

  --negotiation-tip-mode=minimum --negotiation-tip=refs/remotes/origin/main \
  --negotiation-tip-mode=maximum --negotiation-tip=refs/remotes/origin/*

and as we process the --negotiation-tip options we'd put the input data into different lists. Would this complexity be worth it compared to making a new set of options?

This also becomes more complicated how to describe the interaction of these options and any config options that enable them by default. When exactly does the config get ignored in favor of CLI options?

## Considering --negotiation-(required|restricted)

We could alternatively create two new types of options that are clearly related:

* --negotiation-restricted works exactly like --negotiation-tips and
  would be a synonym (with the old one being "deprecated" in favor of
  the newer one).
* --negotiation-required works like the --must-have in this series.
---

Thanks for considering these options with me. There is a lot of room for creativity here. This series isn't even my first attempt at this functionality because there are so many possible ways to accomplish this goal.

Thanks, -Stolee

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  1. 0/4 fetch: add --must-have and remote.*.mustHaveDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 8, 2026
  2. 1/4 t5516: fix test order flakinessDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 8, 2026
  3. 2/4 fetch: add --must-have option for negotiationDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 8, 2026
  4. 3/4 remote: add mustHave config as default for --must-haveDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 8, 2026
  5. 4/4 send-pack: pass --must-have for push negotiationDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 8, 2026
  6. Junio C HamanoApr 8, 2026
  7. Derrick StoleeApr 9, 2026
  8. 0/7 fetch: rework negotiation tip optionsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 15, 2026
  9. 1/7 t5516: fix test order flakinessDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 15, 2026
  10. 2/7 fetch: add --negotiation-restrict optionDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 15, 2026
  11. Junio C HamanoApr 15, 2026
  12. Derrick StoleeApr 19, 2026
  13. Junio C HamanoApr 20, 2026
  14. Derrick StoleeApr 20, 2026
  15. 3/7 transport: rename negotiation_tipsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 15, 2026
  16. Patrick SteinhardtApr 20, 2026
  17. 4/7 remote: add remote.*.negotiationRestrict configDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 15, 2026
  18. Junio C HamanoApr 15, 2026
  19. 5/7 fetch: add --negotiation-require option for negotiationDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 15, 2026
  20. Junio C HamanoApr 15, 2026
  21. Derrick StoleeApr 21, 2026
  22. Patrick SteinhardtApr 20, 2026
  23. Derrick StoleeApr 20, 2026
  24. 6/7 remote: add negotiationRequire config as default for --negotiation-requireDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 15, 2026
  25. 7/7 send-pack: pass negotiation config in pushDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 15, 2026
  26. 0/7 fetch: rework negotiation tip optionsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 22, 2026
  27. 1/7 t5516: fix test order flakinessDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 22, 2026
  28. Matthew John CheethamMay 12, 2026
  29. 2/7 fetch: add --negotiation-restrict optionDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 22, 2026
  30. Matthew John CheethamMay 12, 2026
  31. Derrick StoleeMay 12, 2026
  32. 3/7 transport: rename negotiation_tipsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 22, 2026
  33. Matthew John CheethamMay 12, 2026
  34. Derrick StoleeMay 12, 2026
  35. 4/7 remote: add remote.*.negotiationRestrict configDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 22, 2026
  36. Matthew John CheethamMay 12, 2026
  37. Derrick StoleeMay 12, 2026
  38. 5/7 fetch: add --negotiation-include option for negotiationDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 22, 2026
  39. Matthew John CheethamMay 12, 2026
  40. Derrick StoleeMay 12, 2026
  41. 6/7 remote: add remote.*.negotiationInclude configDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 22, 2026
  42. Matthew John CheethamMay 12, 2026
  43. Derrick StoleeMay 12, 2026
  44. 7/7 send-pack: pass negotiation config in pushDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Apr 22, 2026
  45. Matthew John CheethamMay 12, 2026
  46. 0/8 fetch: rework negotiation tip optionsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, May 14, 2026
  47. 1/8 t5516: fix test order flakinessDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, May 14, 2026
  48. Matthew John CheethamMay 18, 2026
  49. 2/8 fetch: add --negotiation-restrict optionDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, May 14, 2026
  50. Matthew John CheethamMay 18, 2026
  51. 3/8 transport: rename negotiation_tipsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, May 14, 2026
  52. Matthew John CheethamMay 18, 2026
  53. 4/8 remote: add remote.*.negotiationRestrict configDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, May 14, 2026
  54. Matthew John CheethamMay 18, 2026
  55. 5/8 negotiator: add have_sent() interfaceDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, May 14, 2026
  56. Matthew John CheethamMay 18, 2026
  57. 6/8 fetch: add --negotiation-include option for negotiationDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, May 14, 2026
  58. Matthew John CheethamMay 18, 2026
  59. 7/8 remote: add remote.*.negotiationInclude configDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, May 14, 2026
  60. Matthew John CheethamMay 18, 2026
  61. 8/8 send-pack: pass negotiation config in pushDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, May 14, 2026
  62. Matthew John CheethamMay 18, 2026
  63. Matthew John CheethamMay 18, 2026
  64. Derrick StoleeMay 18, 2026
  65. 0/8 fetch: rework negotiation tip optionsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, May 18, 2026
  66. 2/8 fetch: add --negotiation-restrict optionDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, May 18, 2026
  67. 3/8 transport: rename negotiation_tipsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, May 18, 2026
  68. 4/8 remote: add remote.*.negotiationRestrict configDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, May 18, 2026
  69. 5/8 negotiator: add have_sent() interfaceDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, May 18, 2026
  70. 6/8 fetch: add --negotiation-include option for negotiationDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, May 18, 2026
  71. 7/8 remote: add remote.*.negotiationInclude configDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, May 18, 2026
  72. 8/8 send-pack: pass negotiation config in pushDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, May 18, 2026
  73. 1/8 t5516: fix test order flakinessDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, May 18, 2026
  74. Matthew John CheethamMay 19, 2026
  75. Derrick StoleeMay 19, 2026
  76. 0/8 fetch: rework negotiation tip optionsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, May 19, 2026
  77. 1/8 t5516: fix test order flakinessDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, May 19, 2026
  78. 2/8 fetch: add --negotiation-restrict optionDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, May 19, 2026
  79. 3/8 transport: rename negotiation_tipsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, May 19, 2026
  80. 4/8 remote: add remote.*.negotiationRestrict configDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, May 19, 2026
  81. 5/8 negotiator: add have_sent() interfaceDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, May 19, 2026
  82. 6/8 fetch: add --negotiation-include option for negotiationDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, May 19, 2026
  83. 7/8 remote: add remote.*.negotiationInclude configDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, May 19, 2026
  84. 8/8 send-pack: pass negotiation config in pushDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, May 19, 2026
  85. Matthew John CheethamMay 19, 2026
  86. Junio C HamanoMay 20, 2026

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