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Re: Proposal: tell git a file has been renamed

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Jacob Keller <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>
Date
Apr 26, 2023, 19:08 UTC
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On 4/24/2023 12:25 PM, Felipe Contreras wrote:
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> Erik Cervin Edin wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 1:17 PM Jeremy Morton <admin@game-point.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> There's no getting away from the fact that this adds a lot of (IMHO
>>> unnecessary) work if you've already done a rename that git can't
>>> detect and have both that and a bunch of other changes sitting in the
>>> index.  What feels like it would be a natural resolution in these
>>> cases, though, is a "no, this remove/add is actually a rename" command.
>>
>> It can definitely be both arduous and non-obvious how to deal with this.
>>
>> The problem is that such a command cannot exist atm. because renames
>> don't exist, they are only interpreted. So the only way to achieve
>> this is to revert enough of the contents staged to the index such that
>> the rename is detected. The only way to do that in a foolproof manner
>> is reverting all the staged changes except the path so that the moved
>> file in the index is identical to the old file in HEAD.
> 
> I agree recording renames explicitely might be a good addition to git, but the
> real question is how are they going to be stored in the object storage.
> 
> My guess is that it can be added in the commit object after "committer", just
> add a "renames" field with all the renames, or one "rename" field per rename.
> It would be backwards compatible because any field can be added this way.
> 
> How to generate these fields is a separate issue: first things first.
> 

I think such a renames field might work, but I know historically there was a lot of resistance to "baking in" such rename logic because you can't "fix" it later.

I know there are some big threads from early days of git discussing this, with many objections on baking in renames for various reasons.

I think the argument can be made that there is still value in a commit which says "I as the commiter know this is renaming the file, please show it as such and track it as such", and I think the other use cases (code moving from one file to another without a full rename, multiple copies of a file getting deleted, etc) can be handled in other ways or with an escape hatch to disable the commit rename indicator if necessary.

In the more complex cases where code is moved without a full rename, there are tools for handling this such as pickaxe or the proposed magic blame tool that was brought up in the discussions against static renames being coded into the object storage. I think those are interesting but separate problems from "I am renaming this file and some of its contents".

At commit basically is the only way this could be baked into the object storage, since blobs don't store filenames and trees don't store any method of difference individually. The commit is the only place to really do it.

The alternative would be something like Junio suggested where we have a separate rename storage database which is computed ahead of time (kind of like commit graph storage) and which could be overridden manually. This doesn't "bake" anything into the objects, but obviously requires manually keeping up to date and adds some difficulty in sharing such updates across remotes.

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Message 19 of 24 in “Proposal: tell git a file has been renamed”
  1. Jeremy MortonApr 22, 2023
  2. rsbecker@nexbridge.comApr 22, 2023
  3. Jeremy MortonApr 22, 2023
  4. rsbecker@nexbridge.comApr 22, 2023
  5. Jeremy MortonApr 22, 2023
  6. rsbecker@nexbridge.comApr 22, 2023
  7. Erik Cervin EdinApr 23, 2023
  8. Kristoffer HaugsbakkApr 23, 2023
  9. Chris TorekApr 24, 2023
  10. Jeremy MortonApr 24, 2023
  11. Chris TorekApr 24, 2023
  12. Erik Cervin EdinApr 24, 2023
  13. Jeremy MortonApr 24, 2023
  14. Erik Cervin EdinApr 24, 2023
  15. Jeremy MortonApr 24, 2023
  16. Felipe ContrerasApr 24, 2023
  17. Jacob KellerApr 24, 2023
  18. Felipe ContrerasApr 24, 2023
  19. Jacob KellerApr 26, 2023
  20. Junio C HamanoApr 26, 2023
  21. Erik Cervin EdinMay 11, 2023
  22. Junio C HamanoApr 24, 2023
  23. Junio C HamanoApr 24, 2023
  24. Jeremy MortonApr 24, 2023

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