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Re: [PATCH 2/2] xdiff: optimize xdl_hash_record_verbatim

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Alexander Monakov <amonakov@ispras.ru>
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Aug 11, 2025, 14:14 UTC
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On Mon, 11 Aug 2025, Phillip Wood wrote:
> > That's what the 'cycles' column in the table gives (6.21/5.8 = 1.070...)
> 
> It would be helpful to add a column with those calculations in it rather than
> forcing the reader to calculate the speed up for themselves.
Ok, will change it to

version | speedup over (A) | cycles, bn | instructions, bn ---------------------------------------------------------- A 6.38 11.3 B 1.027 6.21 10.89 C 1.1 5.80 9.95 D 1.094 5.83 8.74 ----------------------------------------------------------

> Also what is the cycles column measuring? What is it that takes 6.21 cycles
> for B and only 5.8 cycles for C?
Billions of cycles, e.g. in C the entire command completes in 5.8e9 CPU cycles.
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> > Then you get 9% from the inlining patch and only 2% from the faster hash
> > function? That's a bit surprising, which compiler and CPU you used? Is it
> > with default optimization (-O2)?
> 
> I used gcc with -O2 -march=native on an i5-8500. I saw a similar improvement
> from the inlining when I was playing with xxhash.

Thanks, I'll see if I can benchmark it on a Skylake in the coming days. That said, I think most users will get Git from their distro, without -march=native, right? So I'd suggest looking at plain -O2, especially for xxhash, which selects hashing primitives based on CPU-indicating predefined macros.

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> > I'd say under reasonable assumptions (e.g. a not too ancient CPU with
> > 3-cycle integer multiplication) the new scheme is generally faster even
> > without asm.
> 
> Thanks, fwiw I don't see a measurable difference in the timings with and
> without the asm on my machine -

To be clear, by "without asm" you mean forcing the !__GNUC__ branch where REASSOC_FENCE macro is empty?

> sometimes one is faster, sometimes the other, any difference is within the
> noise.

Would you mind showing your 'gcc --version'? Also, I prefer 'perf stat' for such measurements, because its measurements are not so sensitive to frequency scaling (plus, you can compare my cycles/instructions counts with yours if you run 'perf stat', but I cannot compare your seconds from hyperfine with mine because of course my CPU runs at a different frequency than yours).

'perf stat -r 5' runs the workload 5 times and prints averages and deviation.
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> > No, what we need to do here is outside of the abstract machine's view,
> > standard functions are not going to help.
> 
> That's a shame. I'd hoped that stopping the compiler reorder the code would do
> the same thing - what is the asm doing that's different?

atomic_signal_fence only blocks reordering of references to memory that can be observed from a signal handler interrupting the current thread. It has no effect on variables whose addresses do not escape (let alone never taken in the first place). Here we want to force a particular evaluation order for variables that end up on registers and are not supposed to appear in memory at all.

Alexander
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  1. 0/2 optimize string hashing in xdiffAlexander Monakov, Jul 28, 2025
  2. 2/2 xdiff: optimize xdl_hash_record_verbatimAlexander Monakov, Jul 28, 2025
  3. Junio C HamanoJul 28, 2025
  4. Alexander MonakovJul 28, 2025
  5. Phillip WoodAug 4, 2025
  6. Alexander MonakovAug 4, 2025
  7. Phillip WoodAug 11, 2025
  8. Alexander MonakovAug 11, 2025
  9. Alexander MonakovAug 12, 2025
  10. Junio C HamanoAug 20, 2025
  11. Alexander MonakovSep 8, 2025
  12. Junio C HamanoSep 8, 2025
  13. Phillip WoodAug 13, 2025
  14. 1/2 xdiff: refactor xdl_hash_record()Alexander Monakov, Jul 28, 2025
  15. Junio C HamanoJul 28, 2025
  16. Eli SchwartzJul 28, 2025
  17. Junio C HamanoJul 28, 2025
  18. Alexander MonakovJul 28, 2025
  19. Junio C HamanoAug 14, 2025
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  21. Jacob KellerAug 29, 2025
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