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Re: Buffer overflows

From
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Date
Aug 31, 2007, 04:09 UTC
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<alpine.LFD.0.999.0708302050170.25853@woody.linux-foundation.org>
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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, Timo Sirainen wrote:
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> > 
> > Perhaps because your patch was using a totally nonstandard and slow
> > interface, and had nasty string declaration issues, as people even pointed
> > out to you.
> 
> Slow?

Having a string library, and then implementing "str_append()" with a strlen() sounds pretty disgusting to me.

Gcc could have optimized the strlen() away for constant string arguments, but since you made the thing out-of-line, it can't do that any more.

So yes, I bet there are faster string libraries out there.
> The code should be easy to verify to be secure, and with some kind of a safe
> string API it's a lot easier than trying to figure out corner cases where
> strcpy() calls break.

I actually looked at the patches, and the "stringbuf()" thing was just too ugly to live. It was also nonportable, in that you use the reserved namespace (which we do extensively in the kernel, but that's an "embdedded" application that doesn't use system header files).

So the API was anything but "safe".

I think something like that could work, but it really should be done right, or not at all.

		Linus
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Message 21 of 26 in “Buffer overflows”
  1. Timo SirainenAug 30, 2007
  2. Lukas SandströmAug 30, 2007
  3. Linus TorvaldsAug 30, 2007
  4. Timo SirainenAug 30, 2007
  5. Reece DunnAug 30, 2007
  6. Timo SirainenAug 30, 2007
  7. Reece DunnAug 30, 2007
  8. Wincent ColaiutaAug 31, 2007
  9. Simon 'corecode' SchubertAug 31, 2007
  10. Junio C HamanoAug 30, 2007
  11. Pierre HabouzitAug 30, 2007
  12. Timo SirainenAug 30, 2007
  13. Johan HerlandSep 2, 2007
  14. Reece DunnSep 2, 2007
  15. David KastrupSep 2, 2007
  16. Reece DunnSep 2, 2007
  17. Jakub NarebskiSep 3, 2007
  18. Junio C HamanoSep 3, 2007
  19. René ScharfeSep 2, 2007
  20. Lukas SandströmSep 2, 2007
  21. Linus TorvaldsAug 31, 2007
  22. Timo SirainenAug 31, 2007
  23. Andreas EricssonAug 31, 2007
  24. Johannes SchindelinAug 31, 2007
  25. Temporary fix for stack smashing in mailinfoAlex Riesen, Aug 30, 2007
  26. Junio C HamanoAug 30, 2007

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