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Re: [PATCH 05/13] credential: gate new fields on capability

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Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
Date
Apr 4, 2024, 04:07 UTC
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On Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 12:39:58AM +0000, brian m. carlson wrote:
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> On 2024-04-02 at 10:04:31, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:
> > The intent of this is quite clear to me, but thanks for re-explaining
> > the bigger picture :)
> 
> Sorry I misunderstood what you were getting it.
> 
> > I think you misunderstood my confusion. I didn't meant to say that there
> > should be non-boolean capabilities. I was rather missing the picture of
> > how exactly you can advertise multiple capabilities with the infra that
> > currently exists, and why the infra supports per-phase capabilities.
> > 
> > Basically, what I would have expected is a protocol where both Git and
> > the credential helper initially did a single "handshake" that also
> > announces capabilities. So something like:
> > 
> >     HELPER: capability foobar
> >     HELPER: capability barfoo
> >        GIT: capability foobar
> > 
> > Git would only acknowledge capabilities that it both understands and
> > that have been announced by the helper. So at the end of this both have
> > agreed on a single capability "foobar".
> > 
> > This is roughly how the remote helper capability subsystem works. What
> > this patch is introducing seems quite a bit more complicated than that
> > though because we have "staged" capabilities. I assume there is good
> > reason for this complexity, but I didn't yet manage to figure out the
> > reasoning behind it.
> > 
> > To ask more specifically: why would one side ever announce a capability
> > in phase 1, but not in phase 2? Is the reason that capabilities are in
> > fact tied to credentials?
> 
> More that they're tied to the credential helper.  For example, say we
> have helpers A and B, in that order.  B is incapable, but both A and Git
> understand the new authtype capability.  If we announce the capability
> as in this series, we can get a new credential using the authtype
> capability if A is willing to provide something to us, but we can't if A
> has no credentials for us and B wants to provide them for us.
> 
> This would also be true if we used your proposal of negotiation, but
> because we have external callers (e.g., Git LFS) who may invoke `git
> credential fill`, which would be a separate process from `git credential
> capability`, we'd still have to have some way to tell `git credential
> fill` what capabilities the external caller supported.
> 
> The per-phase capabilities are such that we don't request functionality
> that our callers can't use.  For example, if our external caller (phase
> 1) doesn't support the `authtype` credential, then we don't pass it to
> the helper (phase 2), since the external caller might not be able to use
> the result if we do.  If the external caller (phase 1) _does_ support
> it, but the helper does not (phase 2), then we won't return the
> capability as the result of `git credential fill` (phase 3), so our
> external caller will know that this isn't supported.  As a practical
> matter, that doesn't provide a great deal of useful information to the
> caller at the moment, but it definitely could in the future (say, if we
> had a capability for a certain form of data encoding).
> 
> All of this is also true for internal (e.g., git-http-backend) callers,
> except that phase 1 has all the capabilities we know about automatically
> set, and phase 3 stores the data in the internal structure we'll use for
> the `store` and `erase` calls.
> 
> I do, however, think some way to query capabilities more generically
> would be helpful, so I'll see if I can add such changes into a v2.  I
> think we still need the current approach to make the use case I
> mentioned work, though.
Great. Thanks a lot for your explanations!
Patrick
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Message 12 of 66 in “Support for arbitrary schemes in credentials”
  1. 00/13 Support for arbitrary schemes in credentialsbrian m. carlson, Mar 24, 2024
  2. 09/13 credential: enable state capabilitybrian m. carlson, Mar 24, 2024
  3. 08/13 credential: add an argument to keep statebrian m. carlson, Mar 24, 2024
  4. mirth hickfordApr 1, 2024
  5. brian m. carlsonApr 1, 2024
  6. 10/13 docs: set a limit on credential line lengthbrian m. carlson, Mar 24, 2024
  7. 05/13 credential: gate new fields on capabilitybrian m. carlson, Mar 24, 2024
  8. Patrick SteinhardtMar 27, 2024
  9. brian m. carlsonMar 27, 2024
  10. Patrick SteinhardtApr 2, 2024
  11. brian m. carlsonApr 4, 2024
  12. Patrick SteinhardtApr 4, 2024
  13. Jeff KingMar 28, 2024
  14. Junio C HamanoMar 28, 2024
  15. Jeff KingMar 28, 2024
  16. Junio C HamanoMar 28, 2024
  17. brian m. carlsonMar 28, 2024
  18. 07/13 http: add support for authtype and credentialbrian m. carlson, Mar 24, 2024
  19. 06/13 docs: indicate new credential protocol fieldsbrian m. carlson, Mar 24, 2024
  20. M HickfordMar 25, 2024
  21. brian m. carlsonMar 25, 2024
  22. M HickfordMar 30, 2024
  23. brian m. carlsonMar 31, 2024
  24. 12/13 strvec: implement swapping two strvecsbrian m. carlson, Mar 24, 2024
  25. Patrick SteinhardtMar 27, 2024
  26. Junio C HamanoMar 27, 2024
  27. brian m. carlsonMar 27, 2024
  28. 11/13 t5563: refactor for multi-stage authenticationbrian m. carlson, Mar 24, 2024
  29. 13/13 credential: add support for multistage credential roundsbrian m. carlson, Mar 24, 2024
  30. M HickfordMar 28, 2024
  31. brian m. carlsonMar 28, 2024
  32. M HickfordApr 1, 2024
  33. 02/13 remote-curl: reset headers on new requestbrian m. carlson, Mar 24, 2024
  34. 03/13 http: use new headers for each object requestbrian m. carlson, Mar 24, 2024
  35. Patrick SteinhardtMar 27, 2024
  36. 04/13 credential: add a field for pre-encoded credentialsbrian m. carlson, Mar 24, 2024
  37. 01/13 credential: add an authtype fieldbrian m. carlson, Mar 24, 2024
  38. Junio C HamanoMar 24, 2024
  39. brian m. carlsonMar 24, 2024
  40. Junio C HamanoMar 24, 2024
  41. M HickfordMar 30, 2024
  42. M HickfordMar 30, 2024
  43. Calvin WanApr 2, 2024
  44. brian m. carlsonApr 4, 2024
  45. Jackson ToeniskoetterApr 8, 2024
  46. M HickfordApr 11, 2024
  47. brian m. carlsonApr 12, 2024
  48. M HickfordApr 11, 2024
  49. brian m. carlsonApr 12, 2024
  50. 00/16 Support for arbitrary schemes in credentialsbrian m. carlson, Apr 17, 2024
  51. 02/16 remote-curl: reset headers on new requestbrian m. carlson, Apr 17, 2024
  52. 03/16 http: use new headers for each object requestbrian m. carlson, Apr 17, 2024
  53. 04/16 credential: add a field for pre-encoded credentialsbrian m. carlson, Apr 17, 2024
  54. 01/16 credential: add an authtype fieldbrian m. carlson, Apr 17, 2024
  55. 06/16 credential: add a field called "ephemeral"brian m. carlson, Apr 17, 2024
  56. 05/16 credential: gate new fields on capabilitybrian m. carlson, Apr 17, 2024
  57. 07/16 docs: indicate new credential protocol fieldsbrian m. carlson, Apr 17, 2024
  58. 11/16 docs: set a limit on credential line lengthbrian m. carlson, Apr 17, 2024
  59. 09/16 credential: add an argument to keep statebrian m. carlson, Apr 17, 2024
  60. 10/16 credential: enable state capabilitybrian m. carlson, Apr 17, 2024
  61. 12/16 t5563: refactor for multi-stage authenticationbrian m. carlson, Apr 17, 2024
  62. 08/16 http: add support for authtype and credentialbrian m. carlson, Apr 17, 2024
  63. 14/16 t: add credential tests for authtypebrian m. carlson, Apr 17, 2024
  64. 13/16 credential: add support for multistage credential roundsbrian m. carlson, Apr 17, 2024
  65. 15/16 credential-cache: implement authtype capabilitybrian m. carlson, Apr 17, 2024
  66. 16/16 credential: add method for querying capabilitiesbrian m. carlson, Apr 17, 2024

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