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Re: [PATCH v5] tr2: log parent process name

From
Emily Shaffer <emilyshaffer@google.com>
Date
Jun 8, 2021, 22:24 UTC
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On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 06:16:57PM -0400, Randall S. Becker wrote:
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> 
> On June 8, 2021 6:11 PM, Emily Shaffer wrote:
> >It can be useful to tell who invoked Git - was it invoked manually by a user via CLI or script? By an IDE?  In some cases - like 'repo' tool -
> >we can influence the source code and set the GIT_TRACE2_PARENT_SID environment variable from the caller process. In 'repo''s case,
> >that parent SID is manipulated to include the string "repo", which means we can positively identify when Git was invoked by 'repo' tool.
> >However, identifying parents that way requires both that we know which tools invoke Git and that we have the ability to modify the source
> >code of those tools. It cannot scale to keep up with the various IDEs and wrappers which use Git, most of which we don't know about.
> >Learning which tools and wrappers invoke Git, and how, would give us insight to decide where to improve Git's usability and performance.
> >
> >Unfortunately, there's no cross-platform reliable way to gather the name of the parent process. If procfs is present, we can use that;
> >otherwise we will need to discover the name another way. However, the process ID should be sufficient to look up the process name on
> >most platforms, so that code may be shareable.
> >
> >Git for Windows gathers similar information and logs it as a "data_json"
> >event. However, since "data_json" has a variable format, it is difficult to parse effectively in some languages; instead, let's pursue a
> >dedicated "cmd_ancestry" event to record information about the ancestry of the current process and a consistent, parseable way.
> >
> >Git for Windows also gathers information about more than one generation of parent. In Linux further ancestry info can be gathered with
> >procfs, but it's unwieldy to do so. In the interest of later moving Git for Windows ancestry logging to the 'cmd_ancestry' event, and in the
> >interest of later adding more ancestry to the Linux implementation - or of adding this functionality to other platforms which have an
> >easier time walking the process tree - let's make 'cmd_ancestry' accept an array of parentage.
> 
> We are probably going to have to discuss this one at more length. On
> NonStop, in some cases, I have access to the program arguments of the
> parent (rather like ps -ef) in POSIX-land, but not from the other
> personality. I do have access to the program object name, in both
> sides, although if someone replaces the object - which is not actually
> possible for a running program, but a rename is - the object may end
> up being somewhat meaningless or mangled. My suspicion is that I'm
> going to have to supply different things for the two personalities,
> but I'm not sure what as of yet.

I guess I'm having trouble understanding - it sounds like you're describing one process with a graph of ancestry instead of a line. Does that mean we shouldn't be tracing the ancestry the way we are?

 - Emily
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  1. tr2: log parent process nameEmily Shaffer, May 7, 2021
  2. Bagas SanjayaMay 7, 2021
  3. Emily ShafferMay 7, 2021
  4. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonMay 10, 2021
  5. Junio C HamanoMay 11, 2021
  6. Emily ShafferMay 14, 2021
  7. Junio C HamanoMay 16, 2021
  8. Emily ShafferMay 17, 2021
  9. Jeff HostetlerMay 11, 2021
  10. Emily ShafferMay 14, 2021
  11. tr2: log parent process nameEmily Shaffer, May 20, 2021
  12. Randall S. BeckerMay 20, 2021
  13. Emily ShafferMay 20, 2021
  14. Randall S. BeckerMay 21, 2021
  15. Randall S. BeckerMay 21, 2021
  16. Junio C HamanoMay 21, 2021
  17. Emily ShafferMay 21, 2021
  18. Junio C HamanoMay 21, 2021
  19. Emily ShafferMay 24, 2021
  20. Jeff HostetlerMay 21, 2021
  21. Emily ShafferMay 21, 2021
  22. Randall S. BeckerMay 21, 2021
  23. Jeff HostetlerMay 22, 2021
  24. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonMay 24, 2021
  25. tr2: log parent process nameEmily Shaffer, May 24, 2021
  26. Emily ShafferMay 24, 2021
  27. Junio C HamanoMay 25, 2021
  28. Randall S. BeckerMay 25, 2021
  29. tr2: log parent process nameEmily Shaffer, Jun 8, 2021
  30. Emily ShafferJun 8, 2021
  31. tr2: log parent process nameEmily Shaffer, Jun 8, 2021
  32. Randall S. BeckerJun 8, 2021
  33. Emily ShafferJun 8, 2021
  34. Randall S. BeckerJun 8, 2021
  35. Emily ShafferJun 9, 2021
  36. Junio C HamanoJun 16, 2021
  37. Jeff HostetlerJun 28, 2021
  38. Emily ShafferJun 29, 2021
  39. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJun 30, 2021
  40. Emily ShafferJul 22, 2021
  41. 0/2 tr2: log parent process nameEmily Shaffer, Jul 22, 2021
  42. 1/2 tr2: make process info collection platform-genericEmily Shaffer, Jul 22, 2021
  43. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonAug 2, 2021
  44. 2/2 tr2: log parent process nameEmily Shaffer, Jul 22, 2021
  45. Junio C HamanoJul 22, 2021
  46. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonAug 2, 2021
  47. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonAug 2, 2021
  48. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonAug 2, 2021
  49. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonAug 2, 2021
  50. Jeff HostetlerAug 2, 2021
  51. Randall S. BeckerAug 2, 2021
  52. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonAug 2, 2021
  53. 0/6 tr2: plug memory leaks + logic errors + Win32 & Linux feature parityÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Aug 25, 2021
  54. 1/6 tr2: remove NEEDSWORK comment for "non-procfs" implementationsÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Aug 25, 2021
  55. 2/6 tr2: clarify TRACE2_PROCESS_INFO_EXIT comment under LinuxÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Aug 25, 2021
  56. 3/6 tr2: stop leaking "thread_name" memoryÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Aug 25, 2021
  57. Taylor BlauAug 26, 2021
  58. 4/6 tr2: fix memory leak & logic error in 2f732bf15e6Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Aug 25, 2021
  59. Taylor BlauAug 26, 2021
  60. 5/6 tr2: do compiler enum check in trace2_collect_process_info()Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Aug 25, 2021
  61. Taylor BlauAug 26, 2021
  62. 6/6 tr2: log N parent process names on LinuxÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Aug 25, 2021
  63. Eric SunshineAug 25, 2021
  64. Taylor BlauAug 26, 2021
  65. "I don't know what the author meant by that..." (was "Re: [PATCH 6/6] tr2: log N parent process names on Linux")Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Aug 26, 2021
  66. 0/6 tr2: plug memory leaks + logic errors + Win32 & Linux feature parityÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Aug 26, 2021
  67. 1/6 tr2: remove NEEDSWORK comment for "non-procfs" implementationsÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Aug 26, 2021
  68. 2/6 tr2: clarify TRACE2_PROCESS_INFO_EXIT comment under LinuxÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Aug 26, 2021
  69. 3/6 tr2: stop leaking "thread_name" memoryÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Aug 26, 2021
  70. 5/6 tr2: do compiler enum check in trace2_collect_process_info()Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Aug 26, 2021
  71. 4/6 tr2: fix memory leak & logic error in 2f732bf15e6Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Aug 26, 2021
  72. Eric SunshineAug 26, 2021
  73. Junio C HamanoAug 26, 2021
  74. 6/6 tr2: log N parent process names on LinuxÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Aug 26, 2021
  75. Taylor BlauAug 26, 2021
  76. 0/6 tr2: plug memory leaks + logic errors + Win32 & Linux feature parityÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Aug 27, 2021
  77. 2/6 tr2: clarify TRACE2_PROCESS_INFO_EXIT comment under LinuxÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Aug 27, 2021
  78. 1/6 tr2: remove NEEDSWORK comment for "non-procfs" implementationsÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Aug 27, 2021
  79. 3/6 tr2: stop leaking "thread_name" memoryÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Aug 27, 2021
  80. 6/6 tr2: log N parent process names on LinuxÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Aug 27, 2021
  81. 4/6 tr2: leave the parent list empty upon failure & don't leak memoryÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Aug 27, 2021
  82. 5/6 tr2: do compiler enum check in trace2_collect_process_info()Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Aug 27, 2021
  83. Taylor BlauAug 31, 2021
  84. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonAug 2, 2021
  85. Junio C HamanoAug 2, 2021
  86. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonAug 2, 2021
  87. Jeff HostetlerJul 22, 2021

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