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Re: [PATCH v2 6/6] imap-send: correctly report "host" when using "tunnel"

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Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Date
Feb 3, 2023, 17:53 UTC
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On Thu, Feb 02, 2023 at 10:44:17AM +0100, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
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> Before [1] we'd force the "imap.host" to be set, even if the
> "imap.tunnel" was set, and then proceed to not use the "host" for
> establishing a connection, as we'd use the tunneling command.
> 
> However, we'd still use the "imap.host" if it was set as the "host"
> field given to the credential helper, and in messages that were shared
> with the non-tunnel mode, until a preceding commit made these OpenSSL
> codepaths tunnel-only.
> 
> Let's always give "host=tunnel" to the credential helper when in the
> "imap.tunnel" mode, and rephrase the relevant messages to indicate
> that we're tunneling. This changes the existing behavior, but that
> behavior was emergent and didn't make much sense. If we were using
> "imap.tunnel" the value in "imap.host" might be entirely unrelated to
> the host we're tunneling to. Let's not pretend to know more than we do
> in that case.

If you tunnel to two different hosts, how is the credential system supposed to know which is which?

If you really want to distinguish connecting to $host versus tunneling to $host, I think you'd have to invent some new URL scheme (imap-tunnel:// or something).

But IMHO it is not really worth it. Your statement of "the value in imap.host might be entirely unrelated" does not match my experience. I don't use imap-send, but I've been doing imap-tunneling with various programs for two decades, and it's pretty normal to configure both, and to consider the tunnel command as an implementation detail for getting to the host. For example, my mutt config is like[1]:

  set folder = imap://example.com/
  set tunnel = "ssh example.com /etc/rimapd"

and I expect to be able to refer to folders as imap://example.com/foo, etc (well, in mutt you'd use the shorthand "=foo", but the idea is the same). So if we see:

  [imap]
  host = example.com
  tunnel = ssh example.com /etc/rimapd

we should likewise think of it as example.com, but with an implementation detail of how to contact the server.

Of course if you don't set imap.host, then we don't have anything useful to say. But as you saw, in that case imap-send will default the host field to the word "tunnel".

-Peff
[1] In my experience the main reason to tunnel is to avoid auth
    altogether, so for those cases the credential code wouldn't matter
    either way. But I imagine there may be some people who use it to pierce
    a firewall or some other network obstacle, and really do want it to
    be otherwise just like a connection to $host.
Previous: Junio C HamanoNext: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
Message 21 of 37 in “Makefile: not use mismatched curl_config to check version”
  1. 1/2 Makefile: not use mismatched curl_config to check versionJiang Xin, Feb 1, 2023
  2. 2/2 imap-send: not define USE_CURL_FOR_IMAP_SEND in MakefileJiang Xin, Feb 1, 2023
  3. imap-send: replace auto-probe libcurl with hard dependencyÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Feb 1, 2023
  4. Junio C HamanoFeb 1, 2023
  5. Jeff KingFeb 1, 2023
  6. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 2, 2023
  7. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 1, 2023
  8. Junio C HamanoFeb 2, 2023
  9. 0/6 imap-send: replace auto-probe libcurl with hard dependencyÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Feb 2, 2023
  10. 1/6 imap-send: note "auth_method", not "host" on auth method failureÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Feb 2, 2023
  11. Junio C HamanoFeb 2, 2023
  12. 2/6 imap-send doc: the imap.sslVerify is used with imap.tunnelÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Feb 2, 2023
  13. 3/6 imap-send: replace auto-probe libcurl with hard dependencyÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Feb 2, 2023
  14. Junio C HamanoFeb 2, 2023
  15. 4/6 imap-send: make --curl no-optionalÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Feb 2, 2023
  16. Junio C HamanoFeb 2, 2023
  17. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 3, 2023
  18. Junio C HamanoFeb 4, 2023
  19. 6/6 imap-send: correctly report "host" when using "tunnel"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Feb 2, 2023
  20. Junio C HamanoFeb 2, 2023
  21. Jeff KingFeb 3, 2023
  22. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 3, 2023
  23. Jeff KingFeb 4, 2023
  24. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 5, 2023
  25. Jeff KingFeb 7, 2023
  26. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 7, 2023
  27. Junio C HamanoFeb 7, 2023
  28. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 7, 2023
  29. Jeff KingFeb 7, 2023
  30. Jeff KingFeb 7, 2023
  31. Junio C HamanoFeb 7, 2023
  32. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 8, 2023
  33. Jeff KingFeb 17, 2023
  34. Junio C HamanoFeb 6, 2023
  35. 5/6 imap-send: remove old --no-curl codepathÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Feb 2, 2023
  36. Junio C HamanoFeb 2, 2023
  37. Junio C HamanoFeb 1, 2023

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