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Re: Difficulties in advertising a new branch to git newbies

From
Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>
Date
Jan 31, 2007, 01:48 UTC
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<20070130231015.GB10075@coredump.intra.peff.net>
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007, Jeff King wrote:
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> On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 12:13:26PM -0800, Carl Worth wrote:
> 
> > Also, if I'm willing to assume (or insist) that users have git 1.5 or
> > newer, it'd be nice to be able to drop the "-b build" thing thanks to
> > the new detached HEAD support. But if I suggest doing just:
> > 
> > 		git checkout origin/proposed-fix
> > 
> > the user is presented with the following message which is much more
> > scary than useful in this situation:
> > 
> > 	warning: you are not on ANY branch anymore.
> > 	If you meant to create a new branch from the commit, you need -b to
> > 	associate a new branch with the wanted checkout.  Example:
> > 	  git checkout -b <new_branch_name> origin/proposed-fix

Note that the latest revision on the master branch of git has a slightly less scary message.

> I don't see any reason why we can't scare the user when making a commit,
> instead of just checkout out to look around. Something like the patch
> below. It needs a few things:
>   - remove the old checkout message
I don't think that is a good idea in general.

It is already kind of a challenge to teach people about git's branch concept. The detached head is yet another exotic thing about git that is sure not to be really obvious to everyone. Now if you remove the message to hide the detached head state from the user just to come later on with a "hey btw did you know that your head was detached?" message then you can be assured that most people will simply go WTF.

Nicolas
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  1. Carl WorthJan 30, 2007
  2. Jakub NarebskiJan 30, 2007
  3. Yann DirsonJan 30, 2007
  4. Jakub NarebskiJan 30, 2007
  5. Junio C HamanoJan 30, 2007
  6. Jakub NarebskiJan 30, 2007
  7. Matthias LederhoferJan 30, 2007
  8. Matthias LederhoferJan 30, 2007
  9. Jeff KingJan 30, 2007
  10. Junio C HamanoJan 31, 2007
  11. Nicolas PitreJan 31, 2007
  12. Jeff KingJan 31, 2007
  13. Nicolas PitreJan 31, 2007
  14. Jeff KingJan 31, 2007
  15. Nicolas PitreJan 31, 2007
  16. Jeff KingJan 31, 2007
  17. Junio C HamanoJan 31, 2007
  18. Theodore TsoJan 31, 2007
  19. Junio C HamanoJan 31, 2007
  20. Jakub NarebskiJan 31, 2007
  21. Nicolas PitreJan 31, 2007
  22. Daniel BarkalowJan 31, 2007
  23. Nicolas PitreJan 31, 2007
  24. Daniel BarkalowJan 31, 2007
  25. Nicolas PitreJan 31, 2007
  26. J. Bruce FieldsJan 31, 2007
  27. Jakub NarebskiJan 31, 2007
  28. Nicolas PitreJan 31, 2007
  29. Daniel BarkalowJan 31, 2007
  30. Nicolas PitreJan 31, 2007
  31. Guilhem BonnefilleJan 31, 2007
  32. Carl WorthJan 31, 2007
  33. Johannes SchindelinJan 31, 2007
  34. Santi BéjarJan 31, 2007
  35. Carl WorthJan 31, 2007
  36. Josef WeidendorferFeb 1, 2007
  37. Santi BéjarFeb 1, 2007
  38. Jakub NarebskiFeb 1, 2007
  39. Carl WorthFeb 6, 2007
  40. Junio C HamanoFeb 6, 2007
  41. Junio C HamanoFeb 6, 2007
  42. Jeff KingFeb 6, 2007
  43. Carl WorthFeb 6, 2007
  44. Junio C HamanoFeb 6, 2007
  45. Carl WorthFeb 6, 2007
  46. Jakub NarebskiFeb 6, 2007
  47. Jeff KingFeb 6, 2007
  48. Junio C HamanoFeb 6, 2007
  49. Jeff KingFeb 6, 2007
  50. Nicolas PitreFeb 6, 2007

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