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Re: [RFC] [PATCH 0/5] Implement 'prior' commit object links (and other commit links ideas)

From
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Date
Apr 25, 2006, 17:11 UTC
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<Pine.LNX.4.64.0604251004410.3701@g5.osdl.org>
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On Tue, 25 Apr 2006, Jakub Narebski wrote:
> 
> The generic commit links "related" which is fsck-able at least and "note"
> which is not. It is idea somewhat on the level of providing _extended
> attributes_ in VFS in Linux kernel, IMVHO.
And nobody actually uses extended attributes either, do they?

Plus it's _not_ fsck'able, since the thing doesn't even have any valid semantics. You guys can't even agree on whether the object must exist or not.

Anyway, I'm not interested. I'm violently opposed to the mess that is darcs and other crapola. The WHOLE point of git is to have well-defined semantics and get away from the horrors that other systems have done, where they have allowed any random crap to "make sense".

If you want darcs-like semantics where there are no rules, just use darcs, for chrissake! And if you want to base it on git because you've noticed that git is (a) stable, (b) fast and (c) has developed remarkably well, then think for a second _why_ git is stable, fast, and well-developed. It's that exactly because it has clear semantics, and no room for random crud.

Git tracks contents, and the well-defined history of how those contents came to be. Git does NOT track "additional notes" left by the developer that have weak semantics. Git does not track when a developer says "I renamed a file".

For exactly the same reason, git should not track it when a developer says "I think this commit is related to that commit". It's not hard data, that has hard and clear semantics.

Once you start adding data that has no clear semantics, you're screwed. At that point, it's a "track guesses" game, not a "track contents" game.

			Linus
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Message 34 of 63 in “Implement 'prior' commit object links”
  1. Sam VilainApr 25, 2006
  2. 1/5 add 'prior' link in commit structureSam Vilain, Apr 25, 2006
  3. Junio C HamanoApr 25, 2006
  4. 2/5 git-merge-base: follow 'prior' links to find merge basesSam Vilain, Apr 25, 2006
  5. Junio C HamanoApr 25, 2006
  6. 4/5 git-commit-tree: add support for priorSam Vilain, Apr 25, 2006
  7. 5/5 git-commit: add --prior to set prior linkSam Vilain, Apr 25, 2006
  8. 3/5 commit.c: parse 'prior' linkSam Vilain, Apr 25, 2006
  9. Sam VilainApr 25, 2006
  10. Junio C HamanoApr 25, 2006
  11. Sam VilainApr 25, 2006
  12. Jakub NarebskiApr 26, 2006
  13. Jakub NarebskiApr 26, 2006
  14. [OT] Re: [RFC] [PATCH 0/5] Implement 'prior' commit object linksJunio C Hamano, Apr 26, 2006
  15. Jakub NarebskiApr 26, 2006
  16. Junio C HamanoApr 26, 2006
  17. Jakub NarebskiApr 26, 2006
  18. Junio C HamanoApr 26, 2006
  19. Jakub NarebskiApr 26, 2006
  20. Junio C HamanoApr 26, 2006
  21. Jakub NarebskiApr 26, 2006
  22. Sam VilainApr 26, 2006
  23. Jakub NarebskiApr 25, 2006
  24. Junio C HamanoApr 25, 2006
  25. Jakub NarebskiApr 25, 2006
  26. seanApr 25, 2006
  27. Linus TorvaldsApr 25, 2006
  28. Linus TorvaldsApr 25, 2006
  29. seanApr 25, 2006
  30. Linus TorvaldsApr 25, 2006
  31. Andreas EricssonApr 26, 2006
  32. Jakub NarebskiApr 26, 2006
  33. Jakub NarebskiApr 25, 2006
  34. Linus TorvaldsApr 25, 2006
  35. Jakub NarebskiApr 25, 2006
  36. Linus TorvaldsApr 25, 2006
  37. Linus TorvaldsApr 25, 2006
  38. Jakub NarebskiApr 25, 2006
  39. seanApr 25, 2006
  40. Linus TorvaldsApr 25, 2006
  41. seanApr 25, 2006
  42. Linus TorvaldsApr 25, 2006
  43. Jakub NarebskiApr 25, 2006
  44. Linus TorvaldsApr 25, 2006
  45. Jakub NarebskiApr 25, 2006
  46. Jason RiedyApr 25, 2006
  47. seanApr 25, 2006
  48. Linus TorvaldsApr 25, 2006
  49. Junio C HamanoApr 25, 2006
  50. Linus TorvaldsApr 25, 2006
  51. Junio C HamanoApr 25, 2006
  52. Linus TorvaldsApr 25, 2006
  53. Jakub NarebskiApr 26, 2006
  54. Junio C HamanoApr 25, 2006
  55. Linus TorvaldsApr 25, 2006
  56. Jakub NarebskiApr 25, 2006
  57. Sam VilainApr 25, 2006
  58. Linus TorvaldsApr 25, 2006
  59. seanApr 25, 2006
  60. Jakub NarebskiApr 25, 2006
  61. Junio C HamanoApr 25, 2006
  62. Jakub NarebskiApr 25, 2006
  63. Jakub NarebskiApr 29, 2006

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