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Re: RFC: Subprojects

From
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Date
Jan 17, 2006, 17:38 UTC
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<Pine.LNX.4.64.0601170928240.3240@g5.osdl.org>
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<Pine.LNX.4.64.0601171122270.25300@iabervon.org>
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, Daniel Barkalow wrote:
> 
> Think from a debugging standpoint. You know that the main project worked 
> with a particular commit of the superproject.

Yes, there are real advantages to being able to tag a very specific version of a tree.

You can do it manually (ie tag the versions of everything used), but there's a real convenience to being able to say "I want the tree to look exactly as it looked for our internal test-release that we shipped as a pre-view to customer so-and-so".

You can do it with ad-hoc build rules inside a company, but the likelihood that they don't work all the time is pretty high. Somebody forgot to follow the right procedure, and had updated a sub-tree without marking it, and now you can't reproduce the problem that a customer has with a debug build, because you have no way to reproduce the exact binary...

It's why people tag every file for huge trees under CVS for a release, and accept why building a release may take hours. It's crazy, yes, but there are other projects than just the BSD's that have that "World" mentality, where they want every single program under _one_ umbrella, so that they can tag them all together.

Me, I think it's crazy engineering ("if you can't reproduce it with individual projects, you're not doing programming, you're doing Voodoo"), but it's something that some organizations simply require.

Now, it might be enough with a cogito approach of ".git/subprojects", and just _version-control_ it in the top-level project, but then you'd need to make sure that all the tools automatically update the version when they do a "pull" or a "commit" on a subproject. But then it almost boils down to "gitlink"s after all.

		Linus
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Message 30 of 56 in “RFC: Subprojects”
  1. Simon RichterJan 11, 2006
  2. Johannes SchindelinJan 11, 2006
  3. Simon RichterJan 11, 2006
  4. Linus TorvaldsJan 11, 2006
  5. Simon RichterJan 11, 2006
  6. Linus TorvaldsJan 11, 2006
  7. Junio C HamanoJan 14, 2006
  8. Linus TorvaldsJan 14, 2006
  9. A Large Angry SCMJan 14, 2006
  10. Linus TorvaldsJan 14, 2006
  11. A Large Angry SCMJan 14, 2006
  12. Junio C HamanoJan 14, 2006
  13. Martin LanghoffJan 15, 2006
  14. Junio C HamanoJan 15, 2006
  15. Tom PrinceJan 15, 2006
  16. Daniel BarkalowJan 16, 2006
  17. A Large Angry SCMJan 16, 2006
  18. Daniel BarkalowJan 16, 2006
  19. A Large Angry SCMJan 16, 2006
  20. Alex RiesenJan 16, 2006
  21. Junio C HamanoJan 14, 2006
  22. Junio C HamanoJan 15, 2006
  23. Josef WeidendorferJan 16, 2006
  24. Junio C HamanoJan 16, 2006
  25. Daniel BarkalowJan 17, 2006
  26. Junio C HamanoJan 17, 2006
  27. Petr BaudisJan 17, 2006
  28. Daniel BarkalowJan 17, 2006
  29. Craig SchlenterJan 17, 2006
  30. Linus TorvaldsJan 17, 2006
  31. Daniel BarkalowJan 17, 2006
  32. Junio C HamanoJan 18, 2006
  33. Junio C HamanoJan 18, 2006
  34. Alexander LitvinovJan 18, 2006
  35. Andreas EricssonJan 18, 2006
  36. Junio C HamanoJan 18, 2006
  37. Daniel BarkalowJan 18, 2006
  38. Junio C HamanoJan 18, 2006
  39. Daniel BarkalowJan 18, 2006
  40. Petr BaudisJan 23, 2006
  41. Petr BaudisJan 23, 2006
  42. Alexander LitvinovJan 16, 2006
  43. Andreas EricssonJan 16, 2006
  44. Uwe ZeisbergerFeb 20, 2006
  45. Junio C HamanoFeb 21, 2006
  46. Alexander LitvinovJan 12, 2006
  47. Martin LanghoffJan 12, 2006
  48. Alexander LitvinovJan 12, 2006
  49. Martin LanghoffJan 12, 2006
  50. Alexander LitvinovJan 12, 2006
  51. Alex RiesenJan 12, 2006
  52. Anand KumriaJan 12, 2006
  53. Daniel BarkalowJan 12, 2006
  54. [RFC][PATCH] Cogito support for simple subprojectsPetr Baudis, Jan 15, 2006
  55. Linus TorvaldsJan 15, 2006
  56. Junio C HamanoJan 15, 2006

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