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Re: inotify to minimize stat() calls

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Ramkumar Ramachandra <artagnon@gmail.com>
Date
Feb 9, 2013, 17:10 UTC
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Duy Nguyen wrote:
> How about this as a start? I did not really check what it does, but it
> does not look complicate enough to pull systemd in.
>
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/151934
Clever hack.  I didn't know that there was a switch called
core.ignoreStat which will disable automatic lstat() calls altogether.
 So, Finn advises that we set this switch and run igit instead of git.
 There's a git-inotify-daemon which runs inotifywait with -m forever,
updating a modified_files hash.  When it is sent a TERM from igit
(which is what happens immediately upon execution), it writes all this
collected information about modified files to a named pipe that igit
passes to it.  igit then does a git update-index --assume-unchained
--stdin to read the data from the pipe.  Towards the end of its life,
igit starts up a fresh git-inotify-daemon for future invocations.

Finn notes in the commit message that it offers no speedup, because .gitignore files in every directory still have to be read. I think this is silly: we really should be caching .gitignore, and touching it only when lstat() reports that the file has changed.

As far as a real implementation that we'd want to merge into git.git is concerned, I have a few comments: Running multiple daemons on-the-fly for monitoring filesystem changes is not elegant at all. Keeping track of the state of so many loose daemons is a hard problem: how do we ensure any semblance of reliability without that? Systemd is a very big improvement over the legacy of a hundred loose shell scripts that SysVInit demanded. It monitors and babysits daemons; it uses cgroups to even kill misbehaving daemons. I can inspect running daemons at any time, and have a uniform way to start/ stop/ restart them.

Okay, now you're asking me to consider a system-wide daemon independent of systemd. It has to run with root privileges so it has access to everyone's repositories, which means that people have to trust it beyond doubt. What does it do? It has a generic API to watch filesystem paths and report events over an IP socket. Do you think that this will only be useful to git? Every other version control system (and presumably many other pieces of software) will want to use it. One huge downside I see of making this part of systemd is Ubuntu. They've decided not to use systemd for some unfathomable reason.

Really, the elephant in the room right now seems to be .gitignore. Until that is fixed, there is really no use of writing this inotify daemon, no? Can someone enlighten me on how exactly .gitignore files are processed?

> Youo may want to search the mail archive. This topic has come up a few
> times before, there may be other similar patches.

The thread you linked me to is a 2010 email, and now it's 2013. We've been silent about inotify for three years?

Thanks for your inputs, Duy.
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  7. Robert ZehFeb 9, 2013
  8. Ramkumar RamachandraFeb 9, 2013
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  11. Duy NguyenFeb 9, 2013
  12. Ramkumar RamachandraFeb 9, 2013
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  14. Duy NguyenFeb 10, 2013
  15. Duy NguyenFeb 10, 2013
  16. Duy NguyenFeb 10, 2013
  17. Junio C HamanoFeb 10, 2013
  18. Duy NguyenFeb 11, 2013
  19. Duy NguyenFeb 11, 2013
  20. Torsten BögershausenMar 7, 2013
  21. Junio C HamanoMar 8, 2013
  22. Torsten BögershausenMar 8, 2013
  23. Junio C HamanoMar 8, 2013
  24. Torsten BögershausenMar 8, 2013
  25. Duy NguyenMar 8, 2013
  26. Ramkumar RamachandraMar 10, 2013
  27. status: hint the user about -uno if read_directory takes too longNguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Mar 13, 2013
  28. Torsten BögershausenMar 13, 2013
  29. Junio C HamanoMar 13, 2013
  30. Duy NguyenMar 14, 2013
  31. Junio C HamanoMar 14, 2013
  32. Duy NguyenMar 15, 2013
  33. Torsten BögershausenMar 15, 2013
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  42. Duy NguyenMar 16, 2013
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  44. Duy NguyenFeb 10, 2013
  45. Magnus BäckFeb 14, 2013
  46. Ramkumar RamachandraFeb 10, 2013
  47. Duy NguyenFeb 11, 2013
  48. Erik Faye-LundFeb 10, 2013
  49. Duy NguyenFeb 11, 2013
  50. Karsten BleesFeb 12, 2013
  51. Duy NguyenFeb 13, 2013
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  56. Jeff KingFeb 13, 2013
  57. Karsten BleesFeb 14, 2013
  58. name-hash.c: fix endless loop with core.ignorecase=trueKarsten Blees, Feb 27, 2013
  59. Junio C HamanoFeb 27, 2013
  60. Karsten BleesFeb 27, 2013
  61. name-hash.c: fix endless loop with core.ignorecase=trueKarsten Blees, Feb 27, 2013
  62. Junio C HamanoFeb 28, 2013
  63. Ramkumar RamachandraFeb 19, 2013
  64. Karsten BleesFeb 19, 2013
  65. Drew NorthupFeb 19, 2013
  66. Duy NguyenFeb 19, 2013
  67. Junio C HamanoFeb 9, 2013
  68. Robert ZehFeb 10, 2013
  69. Martin FickFeb 10, 2013
  70. Robert ZehFeb 10, 2013
  71. Duy NguyenFeb 11, 2013
  72. Robert ZehFeb 11, 2013
  73. Ramkumar RamachandraFeb 19, 2013
  74. Robert ZehApr 24, 2013
  75. Duy NguyenApr 24, 2013
  76. Robert ZehApr 25, 2013
  77. Duy NguyenApr 25, 2013
  78. Robert ZehApr 26, 2013
  79. Thomas RastApr 25, 2013
  80. Robert ZehApr 25, 2013
  81. Thomas RastApr 25, 2013
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  83. Duy NguyenApr 27, 2013
  84. Ramkumar RamachandraFeb 9, 2013
  85. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 14, 2013
  86. Junio C HamanoFeb 14, 2013
  87. Ramkumar RamachandraFeb 19, 2013
  88. Duy NguyenApr 30, 2013

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