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Re: [PATCH 00/17] Remove assumptions about refname lifetimes

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Johan Herland <johan@herland.net>
Date
May 20, 2013, 17:08 UTC
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On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Jeff King <peff@peff.net> wrote:
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> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 09:37:30AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>> Johan Herland <johan@herland.net> writes:
>>
>> > For server-class installations we need ref storage that can be read
>> > (and updated?) atomically, and the current system of loose + packed
>> > files won't work since reading (and updating) more than a single file
>> > is not an atomic operation. Trivially, one could resolve this by
>> > dropping loose refs, and always using a single packed-refs file, but
>> > that would make it prohibitively expensive to update refs (the entire
>> > packed-refs file must be rewritten for every update).
>> >
>> > Now, observe that we don't have these race conditions in the object
>> > database, because it is an add-only immutable data store.
>> >
>> > What if we stored the refs as a tree object in the object database,
>> > referenced by a single (loose) ref?
>>
>> What is the cost of updating a single branch with that scheme?
>
> Yeah, I had the same thoughts as you here; I don't think this is really
> much better than updating a single packed-refs file. You may only
> have to touch log(N) of the entries to update the trees along the path
> to your ref (assuming you have a bushy refs/ tree; in practice, of
> course, you have a lot of entries in refs/heads/, so you do not quite
> get log behavior). So algorithmically it may be slightly better, but you
> pay a much higher constant, in that you are creating many tree objects
> along the path (and reading them on lookup).
True.
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> But more importantly, it introduces contention between two unrelated
> refs that are being updated. Even if we reconcile the differences
> automatically (e.g., with a "merge-and-retry" strategy), that is going
> to be a serious performance regression for a busy repository, as we
> repeatedly try to reconcile the serialized updates to the refs/ root
> tree.
>
> Any transactional solution needs to have the equivalent of ref-level
> locking (i.e., row-level locking in a relational setting). It is OK for
> two simultaneous updates to different rows to happen in random order; we
> don't care about that level of atomicity. The important thing is that
> the _readers_ see transactions in consistent order; if we know that
> update B started after update A finished, then we must never see update
> A without update B reflected. And I think that is more or less a solved
> problem in the database world.
>
> That is what prevents:
>
>   git update-ref A B
>   git update-ref -d B
>
> from creating a view where the reader sees neither A nor B (which is
> what can happen with the current filesystem view).

All true. Just a last spasm from the dying notion that we could solve this in the filesystem, without using "proper" database...

...Johan
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Johan Herland, <johan@herland.net>
www.herland.net
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Message 39 of 42 in “Remove assumptions about refname lifetimes”
  1. 00/17 Remove assumptions about refname lifetimesMichael Haggerty, May 19, 2013
  2. 01/17 describe: make own copy of refnameMichael Haggerty, May 19, 2013
  3. 02/17 fetch: make own copies of refnamesMichael Haggerty, May 19, 2013
  4. 03/17 add_rev_cmdline(): make a copy of the name argumentMichael Haggerty, May 19, 2013
  5. 04/17 builtin_diff_tree(): make it obvious that function wants two entriesMichael Haggerty, May 19, 2013
  6. Junio C HamanoMay 21, 2013
  7. Michael HaggertyMay 23, 2013
  8. 05/17 cmd_diff(): use an object_array for holding treesMichael Haggerty, May 19, 2013
  9. Junio C HamanoMay 21, 2013
  10. Michael HaggertyMay 23, 2013
  11. 06/17 cmd_diff(): rename local variable "list" -> "entry"Michael Haggerty, May 19, 2013
  12. 07/17 cmd_diff(): make it obvious which cases are exclusive of each otherMichael Haggerty, May 19, 2013
  13. 08/17 revision: split some overly-long linesMichael Haggerty, May 19, 2013
  14. Junio C HamanoMay 21, 2013
  15. Michael HaggertyMay 23, 2013
  16. Junio C HamanoMay 23, 2013
  17. 09/17 gc_boundary(): move the check "alloc <= nr" to callerMichael Haggerty, May 19, 2013
  18. Junio C HamanoMay 21, 2013
  19. Michael HaggertyMay 23, 2013
  20. Junio C HamanoMay 23, 2013
  21. 10/17 get_revision_internal(): make check less mysteriousMichael Haggerty, May 19, 2013
  22. Junio C HamanoMay 21, 2013
  23. Michael HaggertyMay 23, 2013
  24. 11/17 object_array: add function object_array_filter()Michael Haggerty, May 19, 2013
  25. 12/17 object_array_remove_duplicates(): rewrite to reduce copyingMichael Haggerty, May 19, 2013
  26. 13/17 fsck: don't put a void*-shaped peg in a char*-shaped holeMichael Haggerty, May 19, 2013
  27. 14/17 find_first_merges(): initialize merges variable using initializerMichael Haggerty, May 19, 2013
  28. 15/17 find_first_merges(): remove unnecessary codeMichael Haggerty, May 19, 2013
  29. 16/17 object_array_entry: copy name before storing in name fieldMichael Haggerty, May 19, 2013
  30. Johan HerlandMay 20, 2013
  31. Michael HaggertyMay 20, 2013
  32. Jeff KingMay 20, 2013
  33. Michael HaggertyMay 20, 2013
  34. 17/17 refs: document the lifetime of the refname passed to each_ref_fnMichael Haggerty, May 19, 2013
  35. Johan HerlandMay 20, 2013
  36. Michael HaggertyMay 20, 2013
  37. Junio C HamanoMay 20, 2013
  38. Jeff KingMay 20, 2013
  39. Johan HerlandMay 20, 2013
  40. Junio C HamanoMay 20, 2013
  41. Johan HerlandMay 20, 2013
  42. Junio C HamanoMay 21, 2013

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