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Re: [PATCH 00/30] [RFC] extensions.refFormat and packed-refs v2 file format

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Han-Wen Nienhuys <hanwen@google.com>
Date
Dec 2, 2022, 16:46 UTC
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On Thu, Dec 1, 2022 at 9:19 PM Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com> wrote:
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> >> The reason to start with this step is that the benefits and risks are
> >> clearly understood, which can motivate us to establish the mechanism for
> >> changing the ref format by defining the extension.
> >
> > I believe that the v2 format is a safe change with performance
> > improvements, but it's a backward incompatible format change with only
> > modest payoff. I also don't understand how it will help you do a stack
> > of tables,
> > which you need for your primary goal (ie. transactions/deletions
> > writing only the delta, rather than rewriting the whole file?).
>
> The v2 format doesn't help me on its own, but it has other benefits
> in terms of size and speed, as well as the "ref count" functionality.
>
> The important thing is that the definition of extensions.refFormat
> that I'm proposing in this RFC establishes a way to make incremental
> progress on the ref format, allowing the stacked format to come in
> later with less friction.

I guess you want to move the read/write stack under the loose storage (packed backend), and introduce (read loose/packed + write packed only) mode that is transitional?

Before you embark on this incremental route, I think it would be best to think through carefully how an online upgrade would work in detail (I think it's currently not specified?) If ultimately it's not feasible to do incrementally, then the added complexity of the incremental approach will be for naught.

The incremental mode would only be of interest to hosting providers. It will only be used transitionally. It is inherently going to be complex, because it has to consider both storage modes at the same time, and because it is transitional, it will get less real life testing. At the same time, the ref database is comparatively small, so the availability blip that converting the storage offline will impair is going to be small. So, the incremental approach is rather expensive for a comparatively small benefit.

I also thought a bit about how you could make the transition seamless, but I can't see a good way: you have to coordinate between tables.list (the list of reftables active or whatever file signals the presence of a stack) and files under refs/heads/. I don't know how to do transactions across multiple files without cooperative locking.

If you assume you can use filesystem locks, then you could do something simpler: if a git repository is marked 'transitional', git processes take an FS read lock on .git/ . The process that converts the storage can take an exclusive (write) lock on .git/, so it knows nobody will interfere. I think this only works if the repo is on local disk rather than NFS, though.

> * Step 1: replace packed-refs with reftable.
> * Step 2: stop writing loose refs, only update reftable (but still read loose refs).

Does that work? A long running process might not notice the switch in step 2, so it could still write a ref as loose, while another process racing might write a different value to the same ref through reftable.

PS. I'll be away from work until Jan 9th.
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  1. 00/30 [RFC] extensions.refFormat and packed-refs v2 file formatDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2022
  2. 01/30 hashfile: allow skipping the hash functionDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2022
  3. 02/30 read-cache: add index.computeHash config optionDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2022
  4. Elijah NewrenNov 11, 2022
  5. Derrick StoleeNov 14, 2022
  6. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonNov 17, 2022
  7. 03/30 extensions: add refFormat extensionDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2022
  8. Elijah NewrenNov 11, 2022
  9. Derrick StoleeNov 16, 2022
  10. 06/30 refs: allow loose files without packed-refsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2022
  11. 07/30 chunk-format: number of chunks is optionalDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2022
  12. 04/30 config: fix multi-level bulleted listDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2022
  13. 05/30 repository: wire ref extensions to ref backendsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2022
  14. 08/30 chunk-format: document trailing table of contentsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2022
  15. 09/30 chunk-format: store chunk offset during writeDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2022
  16. 11/30 chunk-format: parse trailing table of contentsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2022
  17. 10/30 chunk-format: allow trailing table of contentsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2022
  18. 13/30 packed-backend: extract add_write_error()Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2022
  19. 12/30 refs: extract packfile format to new fileDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2022
  20. 14/30 packed-backend: extract iterator/updates mergeDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2022
  21. 16/30 config: add config values for packed-refs v2Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2022
  22. 15/30 packed-backend: create abstraction for writing refsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2022
  23. 17/30 packed-backend: create shell of v2 writesDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2022
  24. 18/30 packed-refs: write file format version 2Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2022
  25. 19/30 packed-refs: read file format v2Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2022
  26. 20/30 packed-refs: read optional prefix chunksDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2022
  27. 21/30 packed-refs: write prefix chunksDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2022
  28. 22/30 packed-backend: create GIT_TEST_PACKED_REFS_VERSIONDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2022
  29. 24/30 t5312: allow packed-refs v2 formatDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2022
  30. 23/30 t1409: test with packed-refs v2Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2022
  31. 26/30 t3210: require packed-refs v1 for some testsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2022
  32. 25/30 t5502: add PACKED_REFS_V1 prerequisiteDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2022
  33. 27/30 t*: skip packed-refs v2 over http testsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2022
  34. 28/30 ci: run GIT_TEST_PACKED_REFS_VERSION=2 in some buildsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2022
  35. 29/30 p1401: create performance test for ref operationsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2022
  36. 30/30 refs: skip hashing when writing packed-refs v2Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 7, 2022
  37. Derrick StoleeNov 9, 2022
  38. Elijah NewrenNov 11, 2022
  39. Derrick StoleeNov 14, 2022
  40. Elijah NewrenNov 15, 2022
  41. Derrick StoleeNov 16, 2022
  42. Elijah NewrenNov 17, 2022
  43. Junio C HamanoNov 18, 2022
  44. Elijah NewrenNov 19, 2022
  45. Taylor BlauNov 19, 2022
  46. Derrick StoleeNov 30, 2022
  47. Han-Wen NienhuysNov 28, 2022
  48. Derrick StoleeNov 30, 2022
  49. Phillip WoodNov 30, 2022
  50. Taylor BlauNov 30, 2022
  51. Han-Wen NienhuysNov 30, 2022
  52. Sean AllredNov 30, 2022
  53. Derrick StoleeDec 1, 2022
  54. Han-Wen NienhuysDec 2, 2022
  55. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonDec 2, 2022
  56. Junio C HamanoNov 30, 2022

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